# Queen Mab, The Goddess **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [June 11, 2016, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282 "2016-06-11T17:13:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/121 "2016-06-12T20:49:09Z")
Actually I haven’t found a team anywhere near as fast consistently as the current Mab meta team… I’ve plenty of fast reliable builds but the Mab one is faster by some way… ---
**Author:** ![Fifthelement](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fifthelement/32/8383_2.png) [@Fifthelement](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fifthelement)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/122 "2016-06-12T20:49:23Z")
Nevermind. I’m done. Waste of time. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/123 "2016-06-12T20:51:03Z")
5% of the people even know about these problems and even deal with them, of those 5% some visit the forums and the rest just watch the ingame chat.[quote=“Jainus, post:119, topic:8282”] Sun&Moon is good… [/quote] Best weapon ever, now if they could just you know lower its mana cost some instead of increasing it every few months. Seriously I feel it just keeps getting more and more expensive.[quote=“Jainus, post:121, topic:8282”] I’ve plenty of fast reliable builds but the Mab one is faster by some way… [/quote] Low level players not in a high guild do not know what this means. ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/124 "2016-06-12T20:51:32Z")
I’ll say it again: Gorg/sooth Valk Bat Bat is about the same speed as double mab. So is: Gorg Rowanne Rowanne Prismatic orb ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/125 "2016-06-12T20:51:43Z")
It’s the fastest because you never lose your turn, like Goblins, but you hit ALL enemy Troops, UNLIKE Goblins ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/126 "2016-06-12T20:52:20Z")
> [@Machiknight](#): > > is about the same speed as double mab. Any double blue troop line-up with valk is the same speed as double mab. ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/127 "2016-06-12T20:53:22Z")
This is my point! Why are we complaining so much? ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/128 "2016-06-12T20:56:28Z")
People look at the effect instead of the cause. The cause is valk powering blue troop, effect is blue troop uses effect then other blue troop casts. To me mab is not op just over used. Below level 200 (95% of players) do not care about line-ups like that because for as great as they are claimed to be, they are boring and not worth the time to trait or make. ---
**Author:** ![Yonur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/c37758/32.png) [@Yonur](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Yonur)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/129 "2016-06-12T20:56:47Z")
Well, the point about Mab is that she is more reliable compared to other teams, because she a) freezes the enemy, and thus prevents them from snowballing in one round and b) can give an extra round. That allows you to faceroll a bit more, if you use her, and means you have to pay more attention against her… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/130 "2016-06-12T20:57:24Z")
This makes her a goblin in blue that freezes. ---
**Author:** ![Yonur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/c37758/32.png) [@Yonur](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Yonur)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/131 "2016-06-12T21:00:38Z")
> [@killerman3333](#): > > This makes her a goblin in blue that freezes. People hate goblins, and people start to hate freeze. I sense dark times ahead for Mab… ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 9:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/132 "2016-06-12T21:02:59Z")
Freeze is a counter to goblins and well any extra turn shenanigans but seriously i hope she does not get nerfed. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/133 "2016-06-12T21:04:38Z")
Sorry @Machiknight I disagree… Neither of those builds is as fast as valk/mab/mab… Bat does a lot less damage and doesn’t get the extra turn… Rowanne can be super-fast but easily goes wrong and slows down if she gets hit… And doesn’t get the extra turn… Both are good builds, don’t get me wrong… But no comparison there… A maw/bd build can win superfast too but not so reliably… The extra turn on Mab on blues, paired with Valkyrie, is abusive. One valk cast can see you dish out 40-50 damage to all enemies without losing the turn, and play in another valk cast soon enough… ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/134 "2016-06-12T21:04:59Z")
Removing her Extra Turn WOULD be a “nerf”, but she’d still be powerful and still used by a lot of players. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/135 "2016-06-12T21:08:26Z")
> [@Jainus](#): > > Neither of those builds is as fast as valk/mab/mab That is clearly speculation and opinion. I must disagree about it being faster. [quote=“TaliaParks, post:134, topic:8282”] she’d still be powerful and still used by a lot of players. [/quote] Wish she was easier to get so i could play with her instead of searching for a player whom uses her. ---
**Author:** ![Koolbiird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/koolbiird/32/5099_2.png) [@Koolbiird](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koolbiird)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/136 "2016-06-12T21:09:40Z")
> [@killerman3333](#): > > That is clearly speculation and opinion. I must disagree about it being faster. You don’t even have the troop. All the speculation is on your end. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/137 "2016-06-12T21:13:01Z")
> [@Koolbiird](#): > > All the speculation is on your end. My speculation on her speed is based on how many times you can cast her effect vs how many times you can fire other teams with the same set up. Her mana cost is what determines if valkyrie can even fill two of her on a team or if you are wasting the extra turn. ---
**Author:** ![Koolbiird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/koolbiird/32/5099_2.png) [@Koolbiird](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koolbiird)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 9:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/138 "2016-06-12T21:14:19Z")
Of which you can not prove because you don’t have the troop. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/139 "2016-06-12T21:17:29Z")
Still your opinion, not really a fact tbh. ---
**Author:** ![Koolbiird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/koolbiird/32/5099_2.png) [@Koolbiird](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koolbiird)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282/140 "2016-06-12T21:19:37Z")
> [@killerman3333](#): > > Wish she was easier to get so i could play with her You don’t have the troop. FACT. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282.md?page=6) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/queen-mab-the-goddess/8282.md?page=8)