# PVP system is perfect and heres why **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [April 17, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198 "2019-04-17T00:15:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bobbydvt247](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/74df32/32.png) [@bobbydvt247](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/bobbydvt247)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198/1 "2019-04-17T00:15:48Z")
Just kidding, it’s horrible. Just like everyone has already mentioned before the PVP system is broken. The scoring is ridiculous but now I’m seeing another problem. Since the update I can end up play the same 1 or 2 teams almost 5 or 6 times in 20 or 30 matches. With the thousands of players playing I find it crazy that I’d be playing the same teams over and over again at that rate. This has occured in multiple sessions over multiple days. I dont expect this to get fixed since the devs are just ignoring all the posts about PVP, but I figured I’d add to the outrage machine. Oh and seriously, can we get 4x speed when in the pause menu or when you click the troop before the opponents turn is over? How has this not been fixed since 4x speed became a thing, and also how is no one else complaining about that this lol? ---
**Author:** ![Yano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b487fb/32.png) [@Yano](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Yano)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 1:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198/2 "2019-04-17T01:00:30Z")
Pretty sure all the summoned spam and it looks like you have to wait longer now to cast is all designed purposefully to slow the gameplay down ---
**Author:** ![canadademon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@canadademon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/canadademon)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 5:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198/3 "2019-04-17T05:39:34Z")
I also did notice I get the same battles over and over again. This started to occur after they "fixed’ it so we wouldn’t see 4x Fire Bomb teams. I wish they would revert it back to how it was so I can get the PVP part done quickly on Mondays. ---
**Author:** ![Aerathi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Aerathi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aerathi)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 5:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198/4 "2019-04-17T05:45:24Z")
It’s actually on par with what they’re trying to do. Time = you’re better, gems = more times, and gems = money. If they take the time out of pvp, then what do they do with everything else? Skill base it? You don’t get better rewards for any warlord 4 fight for anything in the game. It’s a terrible loop started with terrible game design that can only lead to more terriblesness. It’s unfortunate but it’s where we’re at. ---
**Author:** ![RedRoseWarrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/redrosewarrior/32/41880_2.png) [@RedRoseWarrior](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RedRoseWarrior)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198/5 "2019-04-17T21:00:42Z")
I honestly like pvp the way it is. I still get to tire 1 easy. Also they are reworking PVP in a future update ---
**Author:** ![bobbydvt247](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/74df32/32.png) [@bobbydvt247](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/bobbydvt247)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 10:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198/6 "2019-04-17T22:46:27Z")
I’m guessing you are not an endgame who is consistently getting 35-45 pvp points per battle. ---
**Author:** ![RedRoseWarrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/redrosewarrior/32/41880_2.png) [@RedRoseWarrior](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RedRoseWarrior)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 10:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198/7 "2019-04-17T22:48:42Z")
I’m end game but I still get 70 points per 3 trophy battle ---
**Author:** ![Hoop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hoop/32/34118_2.png) [@Hoop](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hoop)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198/8 "2019-04-17T22:52:36Z")
Thats hard to believe. Most end gamers i know are lucky to get 50pts on a 3 trophy battle. My alt account is level 650 and hes not even getting the 70 points per battle anymore. More like 55-60 ---
**Author:** ![RedRoseWarrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/redrosewarrior/32/41880_2.png) [@RedRoseWarrior](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RedRoseWarrior)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 10:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198/9 "2019-04-17T22:55:21Z")
I’ll do a battle real quick then give a ss ---
**Author:** ![RedRoseWarrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/redrosewarrior/32/41880_2.png) [@RedRoseWarrior](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RedRoseWarrior)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 10:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198/10 "2019-04-17T22:59:41Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/7/f7905ef5df32627bee1b2673a6205d7a1076a3b6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Hoop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hoop/32/34118_2.png) [@Hoop](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hoop)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 11:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198/11 "2019-04-17T23:03:20Z")
That kind of proves everyones complaint then. Things should be equal. One person getting 70, and another 35 to 40 on average seems like something is not right in the game. ---
**Author:** ![en9nhcet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/en9nhcet/32/1673_2.png) [@en9nhcet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/en9nhcet)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 11:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198/12 "2019-04-17T23:03:24Z")
yes it direct!y has to do with statues and if your guild does all tasks each week ---
**Author:** ![Hoop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hoop/32/34118_2.png) [@Hoop](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hoop)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198/13 "2019-04-17T23:04:24Z")
Ok, that explains it. Just would be nice to have 3t 70pts, 2t 50 pts, 1t 30 pts, or something like that for everyone ---
**Author:** ![RedRoseWarrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/redrosewarrior/32/41880_2.png) [@RedRoseWarrior](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RedRoseWarrior)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 11:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198/14 "2019-04-17T23:16:49Z")
> [@en9nhcet](#): > > yes it direct!y has to do with statues and if your guild does all tasks each week This is partially correct but it also takes the level difference between you and your opponent. My guild has all tasks completed ---
**Author:** ![en9nhcet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/en9nhcet/32/1673_2.png) [@en9nhcet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/en9nhcet)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 11:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198/15 "2019-04-17T23:24:25Z")
well ive gotten 70pts every pvp battle usually in lower lvl guild that does no tasks then join one that completes all and does lts and i get like 30pts xD the lvl diff of my opponants should make me get less than 70pts if that were the case because im the highest lvl on pc mobile… ---
**Author:** ![RedRoseWarrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/redrosewarrior/32/41880_2.png) [@RedRoseWarrior](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RedRoseWarrior)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 11:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198/16 "2019-04-17T23:25:38Z")
then yeah the level difference is most likely kicking in for you ---
**Author:** ![bobbydvt247](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/74df32/32.png) [@bobbydvt247](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/bobbydvt247)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 3:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198/17 "2019-04-18T03:48:44Z")
That screenshot actually proves you are not at the true endgame level yet. I assume you don’t have any kingdoms to power lvl 10(or all to 5 for that matter) and no delve skill points. You also dont have the 3 or 4 extra skill points from being 1400k lvl plus. So my suggestion to you is don’t lvl your kingdoms any further if you wish you keep those pvp points. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsheep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e8c25b/32.png) [@Nonsheep](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nonsheep)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 4:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198/18 "2019-04-18T04:18:46Z")
It was never to be able to play more diversity teams, it’s just what they said to hide the fact they were limiting high level players & penalizing them for points & gold. That’s the skinny of it right there. ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 4:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198/19 "2019-04-18T04:19:31Z")
Some people have a very low bar approach to what they consider “endgame” 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![RedRoseWarrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/redrosewarrior/32/41880_2.png) [@RedRoseWarrior](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RedRoseWarrior)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198/20 "2019-04-18T19:24:19Z")
I have all kingdoms to level 10 and delve points [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-system-is-perfect-and-heres-why/54198.md?page=2)