# PvP rankings are a joke
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-rankings-are-a-joke/22677
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)
**Created:** [April 16, 2017, 9:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-rankings-are-a-joke/22677 "2017-04-16T09:37:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 4
**Page:** 17
### Author:  [@Aelthwyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aelthwyn)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-rankings-are-a-joke/22677/331 "2017-07-03T20:20:44Z")
If it was always that obvious, that thread would probably not exist.
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### Author:  [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2017, 8:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-rankings-are-a-joke/22677/332 "2017-07-03T20:41:49Z")
@Aelthwyn I thinking there has been a change in policy a while back that I must have missed.
I’m wondering… are the developers still making Guilds pay back ill gotten gains like the used to? Or are they letting the Guild members keep them? I think I know the answer, but don’t have first hand experience with a discovered Guildmate bot.
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### Author:  [@Aelthwyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aelthwyn)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2017, 8:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-rankings-are-a-joke/22677/333 "2017-07-03T20:45:18Z")
I haven’t heard of any change.
Only a dev could answer you.
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### Author:  [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2017, 1:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-rankings-are-a-joke/22677/334 "2017-07-04T01:01:12Z")
In regards to punishing guilds, we have the following policy.
We always ban players before taking any other steps. Once we have banned players, we will then review and investigate their guilds. After that we will take any actions that we deem necessary, whether it be deducting gold, trophies, seals, or all of the above. This is at our discretion, and we will at no time announce publicly what we have decided to do.
Guilds that work with us in order to find cheater’s amongst their roster will be given more leniency.
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