# PvP points should be the same for everyone

**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-points-should-be-the-same-for-everyone/49227
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback
**Created:** [November 23, 2018, 4:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-points-should-be-the-same-for-everyone/49227 "2018-11-23T04:07:52Z")
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### Author: ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)
#### Post date: [June 18, 2019, 7:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-points-should-be-the-same-for-everyone/49227/128 "2019-06-18T07:10:09Z")

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Iirc, from what Sirrian said, the ‘nerf’ (quoting because I think it’s a broad term to describe the situation) was an unintended result of this part of the 4.3 Patch Notes:

> [@4.3 Update (Patch Notes)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-3-update-patch-notes/53514/1):
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> Updated the Team Power algorithm

> [@4.4 Update Preview Discussion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-4-update-preview-discussion/55652/75):
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> Take for example, this PvP issue
> 
> - We implemented a feature to add Hero Power to Team Score
> - A bug was uncovered and fixed with Team Score calculations while that was being done
> 
> Seems harmless enough on the surface, and we did a lot of testing. But it managed to create some unforeseen issues in the PvP Reward calculations out in the wild AND also in the matchmaking (though you never saw that, as we got it fixed). But still, we’re left with this horrible PvP Scoring issue. We can perform full regression tests on any changes, to see if they have cross-system effects, but that takes TIME/MONEY, and it’s not always going to be viable to do that on every single fix… It was so much easier to do this stuff on a smaller codebase. ☹

This is as opposed to:

> [@awryan](#):
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> because the devs think end Gamers in end game guilds are OP.

Although you’d be right in the sense that that’s what’s been communicated to us prior 🤷‍♂️:

> [@4.4 Update Preview Discussion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-4-update-preview-discussion/55652/24):
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> You have access to troops and weapons that newer players don’t, by virtue of playing longer. You have higher stats, better troops and an easier time completing your collection.

I think I agree with the rest, though.

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