# PVP Points seem to be very unbalanced **URL:** \ **Category:** Support\ **Created:** [March 31, 2017, 9:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-points-seem-to-be-very-unbalanced/21953 "2017-03-31T09:29:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 35
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 6:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-points-seem-to-be-very-unbalanced/21953/35 "2017-06-25T18:42:54Z")
Hi, A few of us have done some research on this and there is definitely a significant guild handicap. I’m on mobile right now, but I’ll try to find the exact posts and link them a little later. The short answer is that a guild that finishes all 6 statues gets significantly less PVP points. When I moved from Guild of Gra to a casual guild a few months ago, my average per battle went way up and I was easily able to maintain an average score of over 60. The logic behind this is that I lost all the guild Stat bonuses, but I can’t say whether the calculation is fair or not. I’ll try to find my exact results later and will link here if I can find them. A lengthy thread discussing this issue here: > [@This is why people are worried about GW. Can anyone explain?](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747): > > I have 932 trophies which means I’ve been doing mostly hard battles. He/she is roughly the same level so how do they have 5000 more PVP points than me? This kind of mathematical hocus pocus is why people are concerned about GW. This person is ranked 96th and I’m ranked ELEVEN THOUSAND slots lower despite doing just as much work. The results of my own experiment as a high level player with no guild bonuses: > [@PVP Points seem to be very unbalanced](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-points-seem-to-be-very-unbalanced/21953/10): > > @Rickygervais, @htismaqe Here are the results for my first 41 PVP offers over last night and this morning. I accepted any battle with a PVP score of 60 or greater. Of those 41, 24 were 60 or greater, meaning that I skipped 17 battles at a cost of 17 gems. Of the 24 I did, 18 were 66 points, 4 were 60 and one each were 65 and 63. My record was 21 wins and 3 losses. The average offer to me was 60.1 and the average that I accepted was 64.8. Each of the three losses cost me exactly 3 points. … --- _[View the full topic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-points-seem-to-be-very-unbalanced/21953)._