# PvP ladder forumula seems grindy and a bit wonky, is it working as intended?

**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-ladder-forumula-seems-grindy-and-a-bit-wonky-is-it-working-as-intended/8790
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)
**Created:** [June 24, 2016, 3:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-ladder-forumula-seems-grindy-and-a-bit-wonky-is-it-working-as-intended/8790 "2016-06-24T15:39:23Z")
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### Author: ![Tactica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tactica/32/6914_2.png) [@Tactica](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tactica)
#### Post date: [June 27, 2016, 2:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-ladder-forumula-seems-grindy-and-a-bit-wonky-is-it-working-as-intended/8790/25 "2016-06-27T14:44:32Z")

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It does appear that at least for the arcane traitstones, they are looking at adding another option when you read this recent post.

> [@The Next Update (and beyond)!](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-next-update-and-beyond/8880):
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> Hello everyone, Just thought I would keep you all informed about our update plans. We’ve decided to start doing some stuff a little differently, and have been reorganizing things here for the past month. What we’d like to do is to deliver twice as many updates, containing half as much stuff. Now that’s not quite as easy as it sounds, because each update contains a lot of extra work just to release it, so in effect, we’ve made extra work for ourselves, but we think that it will help us all (p…

It doesn’t talk to the nature of PvP or time vs. rewards in it, but at least they see an issue of arcane trait stone availability.

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