# PvP is fine

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121>\
**Category:** Uncategorized\
**Created:** [May 13, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121 "2024-05-13T17:06:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gandalfstormbringer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gandalfstormbringer/32/95569_2.png) [@Gandalfstormbringer](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gandalfstormbringer)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121/1 "2024-05-13T17:06:56Z")

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Ok so my team gets changed every new mythic  
I swap new for old.

Nothing special, no Stella’s or taks in central spire.

Iv left this till I had a big amount of fights ,there’s no excuse to lose if your a medium to high level.

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**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121/2 "2024-05-13T17:18:05Z")

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it’s not, as many others have stated with a lot of proofs.

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**Author:** ![Gandalfstormbringer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gandalfstormbringer/32/95569_2.png) [@Gandalfstormbringer](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gandalfstormbringer)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 5:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121/3 "2024-05-13T17:20:06Z")

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I actually never see photo proof.  
I can take a picture of every region.  
I have 9 out of 10 win percentage in every region.

So I’m sorry but it’s fine.  
If you want to post your region stats in picture form.  
It would prove your point better .

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**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121/4 "2024-05-13T17:51:31Z")

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Me too, Im top10 weekly, and I tell you with all the data and my expierence - this pvp is broken due to a few cards.

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**Author:** ![Stroganrog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@Stroganrog](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stroganrog)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121/5 "2024-05-13T20:19:18Z")

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All troops in PvP are fine.

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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121/6 "2024-05-13T21:29:21Z")

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@Gandalfstormbringer welcome back Truethat!

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**Author:** ![Tresk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tresk/32/98004_2.png) [@Tresk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tresk)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 11:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121/7 "2024-05-13T23:42:26Z")

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> [@DracoL1ch](#):
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> Me too, Im top10 weekly, and I tell you with all the data and my expierence - this pvp is broken due to a few cards.

-this pvp is broken due the design of the pvp mode itself. There I fixed it for you. If it was the cards fault, those cards would be breaking the rest of the game. Are they? NO. This is not rocket science.

ONE part of ONE mode is not working well for everyone. How we get to blaming troops, weapons and classes that exactly ZERO people hated before pvp, is beyond me. Literally the only thing that changed was how pvp works.

You get that., right? Wand, Stella, Tak, elementalist class ALL existed in the old pvp. Zero complaints.

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**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 5:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121/8 "2024-05-14T05:39:01Z")

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Lol  
The fact you don’t bothered and penetrate any other game mode with those cards w/o noticing who even was there doesn’t mean game is working well.  
PVP is the only way to see how broken some things are.  
Unless devs willing to introduce mode-only card changes, it affects whole game, period.

And nope. Tak wasnt existing in the old pvp. Stellawand wasn’t that popular neither as a defend team. We could change multiple attack teams basing on the defender. Of course 0 complains. Nobody saw those back then.

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**Author:** ![Stroganrog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@Stroganrog](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stroganrog)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 6:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121/9 "2024-05-14T06:13:39Z")

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It looks like you are only one here with the broken game.

For others, it is fine.

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**Author:** ![Tresk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tresk/32/98004_2.png) [@Tresk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tresk)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 10:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121/10 "2024-05-14T10:00:24Z")

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> [@DracoL1ch](#):
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> Lol  
> The fact you don’t bothered and penetrate any other game mode with those cards w/o noticing who even was there doesn’t mean game is working well.  
> PVP is the only way to see how broken some things are.

Lol what?

> [@DracoL1ch](#):
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> Stellawand wasn’t that popular neither as a defend team. We could change multiple attack teams basing on the defender. Of course 0 complains. Nobody saw those back then.

You realize that you just proved my point? Stella and wand were not popular as a defense team because PVP WAS DIFFERENT!!!

PvP is the only way to see how broken PVP IS… and that is ALL.

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> Unless devs willing to introduce mode-only card changes, it affects whole game, period.

Well sure, if you make a game-wide nerf it will affect the whole game. The point is that it SHOULDN’T be nerfed BECAUSE it would unfairly affect the whole game. Why do you seem to think it is fair to ruin other people’s enjoyment of all the other modes of the game, to improve YOUR enjoyment of pvp? Wouldn’t it be more fair to just fix pvp? You know… the thing that is actually broken?

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**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 11:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121/11 "2024-05-14T11:35:13Z")

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Whelp, guess what, pvp wasn’t broken until those arrived. Soooo chickens and eggs.

Nerf those stella/wand/elementalist and we will see for sure.

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**Author:** ![Stroganrog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@Stroganrog](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stroganrog)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 12:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121/12 "2024-05-14T12:17:48Z")

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There are a couple other topics regarding nerf wishes.

Here is about fine PvP

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**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 12:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121/13 "2024-05-14T12:23:49Z")

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how pvp can be viewed beside cards when whole game is based on cards lmao

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**Author:** ![TonyVinci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90ced4/32.png) [@TonyVinci](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TonyVinci)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 2:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121/14 "2024-05-14T14:12:21Z")

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Not because a few cards. Because AI chance luck. Same teams. Same level. Diamond league. I can cast wand of stars 5 times in a row without extra turns. AI casts wand of stars 8 extra moves in a row with skull waterfall. It’s like harpies 5% summon chance. You won’t summon even one. AI summons each turn.

That’s not the first time a game developers have made a code error that caused the AI ​​to work disgusting. I’ve heard that one extra letter in Aliens: Colonial Marines game code has lead to stupid Xeno’s AI. One extra letter that destroyed the game.

Cards are fine, AI’s luck is broken!

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**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121/15 "2024-05-14T16:49:40Z")

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Well, cards aside, I agree the pvp rework and rewards are damn fine.

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**Author:** ![Tresk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tresk/32/98004_2.png) [@Tresk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tresk)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 6:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121/16 "2024-05-15T18:02:38Z")

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Wand of stars has been around a year. PvP didn’t get “broken” until the 7.4 patch at the end of March. Stellarix was buffed in January and was no issue at all until the 7.4 patch at the end of March. Even Takshaka was around several weeks with no issue before the 7.4 patch at the end of March.

So it is not a chicken / egg thing. It’s an everything was working just fine until patch 7.4 made significant changes to pvp, thing. The day before the patch, NOBODY was complaining about the weapon, the troops or any classes. After the patch? A vocal minority are complaining.

The only thing that changed in the game, between the day before the patch and the day of the patch is… THE PATCH!!! The patch did NOT change Wand of Stars, Stella, Tak, or any classes. It changed pvp. So why, in the name of everything holy, would any rational person conclude that the problem isn’t due to radical changes to the mode with issues, but with a handful of things that did not change.

I’m done talking to walls, though. Enjoy the dead game if you get your way.

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**Author:** ![Gandalfstormbringer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gandalfstormbringer/32/95569_2.png) [@Gandalfstormbringer](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gandalfstormbringer)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121/17 "2024-05-15T18:16:20Z")

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Like iv said before  
Biggest problem.

The game employees only listen to the minorities.

Been like this for a long time, why you think they never put up polls, to see the actual numbers.

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**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 6:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121/18 "2024-05-15T18:26:52Z")

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The fact you’ve never tried your own medicine before (having no real pvp WITH those new cards before 7.4) means cards ARE broken.  
Pathfinders died for quite much less than this Stella/wand/taks.  
Oh yeah, btw game core is always a minority. People come and go, and only those who dedicate some time into the game can see it’s flaws as perfect. Sadly you guys just want to have imba on your hands/purpose.

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**Author:** ![Gandalfstormbringer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gandalfstormbringer/32/95569_2.png) [@Gandalfstormbringer](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gandalfstormbringer)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 6:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121/19 "2024-05-15T18:33:55Z")

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You must be the only game core (minority) player on here then 🤣

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**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-is-fine/84121/20 "2024-05-15T19:04:39Z")

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Apparently being sane is a minority last years, so yeah, no wonder.

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