# Pvp hard match points - what's your average?

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-hard-match-points-whats-your-average/9641>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\
**Created:** [July 15, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-hard-match-points-whats-your-average/9641 "2016-07-15T17:32:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![Spherix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/spherix/32/2388_2.png) [@Spherix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Spherix)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 11:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-hard-match-points-whats-your-average/9641/21 "2016-07-16T11:58:03Z")

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So you’re saying that you have a defense team that gives you decent wins, which you haven’t bothered to fully ascend, level, and trait? That’s what @Grundulum is getting at.

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**Author:** ![Aelthwyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aelthwyn/32/4645_2.png) [@Aelthwyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aelthwyn)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 12:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-hard-match-points-whats-your-average/9641/22 "2016-07-16T12:05:25Z")

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I have tried to change my defense team. It didn’t make any difference. Most of my opponents are still worth 30 points.

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**Author:** ![Macawi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/macawi/32/21289_2.png) [@Macawi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Macawi)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 12:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-hard-match-points-whats-your-average/9641/23 "2016-07-16T12:54:20Z")

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That’s strange, it shows the traits when I scout teams.

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