# PvP Etiquette Questions **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [April 16, 2019, 12:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-etiquette-questions/54155 "2019-04-16T00:45:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Balder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@Balder](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Balder)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 12:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-etiquette-questions/54155/1 "2019-04-16T00:45:04Z")
I was excited to see that the event this week offered extra rewards for enemies defeated in PvP battles, as I get extra stuff while trying to plow through PvP this week. But it got me thinking … Is it generally considering “good form” to line up a relatively weak team for PvP defense to help other players get through their tiers more easily? Kind of a “do unto others” sort of thing? I get it if you’re really competitive and hoping to climb and climb in the rankings … defense wins are great and all, so by all means … go all out. But I’m guessing most players are pretty satisfied just working through the tier rewards each week … just like me. So should I “throw off” on defense to make it easier? Just curious. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 1:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-etiquette-questions/54155/2 "2019-04-16T01:06:46Z")
By a lot of people, yes it is! It also helps you, assuming you’re not vying for a PvP Leaderboard position. Setting an easy defence, and/or one that helps fulfill the weekly event, makes you a much more attractive option to attack. When someone beats you, the next time you see them in your 3 PvP choices, they will show up as a ‘Revenge’ battle, which gives you (aside from +3 Glory) double the gold reward if you beat them. This doesn’t show up in the post-battle Rewards screen, but if you check your gold before and after, it will be there. If you are vying for a PvP Leaderboard position, it’s understandable to try to set a hard defence, so that you don’t lose as many PvP points – as you said 🙂. If you pop in to Global 001 at the start of the week, you may often see people reminding each other to set up a defence that’s helpful for the week’s Event - e.g. typically 4x Drake Riders have been used a lot for Brown events like this one, as they spawn another Brown unit on death, but a lot of people have started asking each other to not set this one as the battle takes longer for the same rewards, and can be kind of annoying. On the other hand, it’s a guaranteed 8 Event Points in an arena where not everyone sets a helpful defence. Another couple of tips would be: - Try to make your defence unique, so that it has a greater chance of appearing to other players due to recent changes in matchmaking (a single different troop, class or banner will do – not sure about order) - Try to use troops that give you the highest team score possible, so that you are attacked by higher level players (if that’s what you want). This means using your highest levelled and most traited troops. Note that a Common troop ascended to Mythic gives the same amount of points to your score as a Base Mythic troop. E.g., this is my defence (no one copy! 😝): ![gemsofwar](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/4/74fc9f109c810601fa7c54ee98a8faa13e4a6752.jpeg) N.B.: > [@PSA - It's better to complete all tasks (LT) every other week thanks to 4.3](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-its-better-to-complete-all-tasks-lt-every-other-week-thanks-to-4-3/53647/29): > > Also, the hero can contribute up to 935 points **more** than a mythic fully traited troop on a team (rather than 25 **less** ) due to talents and weapon upgrades contributing points Other relevant threads: - [Weekly PvP Event Defense](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/weekly-pvp-event-defense/52489) - [Devs please support weekly events](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-please-support-weekly-events/50204) - [PvP defense question](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defense-question/40350) - [PvP defence: weak team or Firebomb team?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defence-weak-team-or-firebomb-team/39430) - > [@To all who use all Fire Bomb Teams for Defense](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/to-all-who-use-all-fire-bomb-teams-for-defense/38705): > > I sincerely thank you, and I hope you enjoy and reap the benefits of killing my all Fire Bomb team in many revenge battles. To those of you that put up super difficult defense teams please re-think what you are doing…:slight\_smile: - > [@Set defence to farm snotstones](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/set-defence-to-farm-snotstones/25134): > > Hi everyone. I just wanted to thank everyone who has set snotstone defence teams for pvp. Some of the more phreeky guilds need to learn a lesson and take a leaf out of the guys below them who aren’t hung up on defence wins and want to help their fellow players out. Cheers to the good guys and gals out there and boo hiss to the baddies n bastards! Regards Daniel - [Why I do the "1-troop defense" thing in PvP](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347) - > [@Is it worth it to put up a good defense team?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/is-it-worth-it-to-put-up-a-good-defense-team/9311): > > A few points: Prizes for winning a defense battle with the AI controlling your team as very low. You basically just win rank points, instead of losing them. For most mortals, rank is irrelevant (I have 4k points and I’m not even close to top 10,000, much less top 1,000, which would result in a prize upgrade). If I lose the battle, I get the chance to get revenge. Revenge rewards are nice. Despite what the mail message with the revenge prizes says (ie, the mail you get is named “Defense Rewards… ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 1:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-etiquette-questions/54155/3 "2019-04-16T01:34:46Z")
> [@Jonathan](#): > > Try to use troops that give you the highest team score possible, so that you are attacked by higher level players (if that’s what you want). This means using your highest levelled and most traited troops. Note that a Common troop ascended to Mythic gives the same amount of points to your score as a Base Mythic troop If you have any Weapons at +10 then that would be needed to go for the highest team score possible. Also a class that has its talent at 100. Otherwise, 3 other troops who are level 20 fully traited. They do not need to be unique. ![Screenshot_20190415-020813](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/e/6eb4d5b99958734d8d551fe92eed8cbaacf4611e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 1:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-etiquette-questions/54155/6 "2019-04-16T01:54:28Z")
> [@Jonathan](#): > > I was curious about this, but I tried substituting Doomed Weapons and other, equally upgraded Weapons (I don’t have a Doomed Weapon at +10 – I mean ‘Carved’, seriously? 😝), and saw no difference in Team Score. Are you sure it needs to be Doomed, or just +10? Good catch. It is +10. For some reason I thought only Doom Weapons got that high. I edited my post to reflect your insight on the matter. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Balder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@Balder](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Balder)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 2:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-etiquette-questions/54155/7 "2019-04-16T02:49:27Z")
Thanks for the advice! By the way … is a “farming” defense a thing? Meaning if I put up Tyri … or a Wight … or something that farms Gold/Souls/Maps during battle … will I get them somehow, even if they’re on defense? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 3:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-etiquette-questions/54155/8 "2019-04-16T03:43:53Z")
Nope! 😝 🙁 This thread addresses it (and I’d assume it’s still current?): > [@PvP defense question](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defense-question/40350): > > I had a question. I noticed that when you get defense notifications in the PvP you earn souls/gold/keys and stuff. This might be a stupid question, but do those rewards get selected randomly, or do you earn the rewards that your AI controlled team actually earn in the battle? ie: If I set my soul grinding team as my defense team, would I end up getting more souls because my Banshee, Wight, and Valkyrie generated them in the battle just like when I battle myself? Apparently, you get: > [@PvP defense question](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defense-question/40350/2): > > 1 gem for every 7 chain cascade the AI does (treasure map in offense) > [@PvP defense question](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defense-question/40350/3): > > 1 glory for a loss > 3 glory for a win > 1 soul for every troop your defence team kills > Gold I have no clue about I obviously welcome further input, there. ---
**Author:** ![en9nhcet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/en9nhcet/32/1673_2.png) [@en9nhcet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/en9nhcet)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 3:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-etiquette-questions/54155/9 "2019-04-16T03:59:08Z")
anyone here remember when you could get 1gem per cascade like the ai does and not a map?..pepperidge walrus remembers! xD