# PvP Diversity Issues **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [February 20, 2019, 7:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-diversity-issues/52255 "2019-02-20T07:08:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-diversity-issues/52255/41 "2019-03-25T17:03:51Z")
This morning I accidentally pushed the button to refresh my choices… …and I got the same 3T opponent. That shouldn’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-diversity-issues/52255/42 "2019-03-26T00:12:35Z")
Mm, I’ve still been seeing repeats of the same player(s) several matches apart. ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 11:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-diversity-issues/52255/43 "2019-04-02T23:35:34Z")
I just ran into this on an alt: ![20190402162117_1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/5/35175f16630fb9a690b2b494e059caab46db408e.jpeg) ![20190402162121_1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/5/65c6fa062ef668c21f0863df0d71a16367a41661.jpeg) ![20190402162340_1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/7/9757c79320011f3bb79dba62bfab064ad9da489f.jpeg) If the code is _so_ sensitive that it identifies the ascension level of the troops, a different level of an upgrade on the same weapon, or a different banner as “different teams”, even when they have the exact same troops in the same order down to the hero class, perhaps it needs to be tweaked a bit? ---
**Author:** ![Kafka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kafka/32/33529_2.png) [@Kafka](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kafka)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 5:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-diversity-issues/52255/44 "2019-05-01T05:20:59Z")
The PVP opponent pool appears to be working as intended so I’m going to move this thread to the feedback section so you can continue discussing how you’d like the game to identify a team is different compared to the current method. ---
**Author:** ![Starlite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/starlite/32/43018_2.png) [@Starlite](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Starlite)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 8:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-diversity-issues/52255/45 "2019-05-06T08:11:24Z")
**Are you sure?** Most of the posters above seem to think there _are_ problems with the PvP pool. Saying it “appears to be working as intended” is a real surprise to me! I can accept if your algorithm thinks similar teams are completely distinct. But I cannot accept that opponents reappearing so quickly is anything but a bug. **Let me repeat my biggest issue here:** When I pay to see new opponents (or fight them), the same opponents keep reappearing **unacceptably often!** If I had to guess (and this is _only_ a guess), this is happening because I’m in Australia and playing my PvP at a time when there are very few players in the game. I’m sure there are other times of the day/week that will affect players in other timezones in exactly the same way. I cannot understand why you would not accept that this is a serious problem with the PvP selection algorithm. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Maxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/maxx/32/50891_2.png) [@Maxx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxx)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 8:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-diversity-issues/52255/46 "2019-05-06T08:53:08Z")
> [@Kafka](#): > > The PVP opponent pool appears to be working as intended You’re kidding right? fighting the same teams over and over again with different banners or hero classes is intended? fighting the same person 4 or 5 times within 10 fights is intended? Did you really intend for me to fight the same people over and over again? Last week I fought that wsqjackop person probably 50+ times out of 200 fights. ![60879a2da95af41a0240b4849e953cc1a05767a4_2_690x419](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/8/3853edc5faf346676f61eee4887347c1f7efd076.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 9:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-diversity-issues/52255/47 "2019-05-06T09:24:16Z")
> [@Kafka](#): > > continue discussing how you’d like the game to identify a team is different compared to the current method. For starters, if the point of the diversity code is to actually serve up diversity, it would help if any team that has _three_ of the same troops is considered the same team. At that point, they are clearly going for the same strategy. Also, hero class and banner should not be able to be used as points of difference for a team to be repeated. Having a sub-optimal class or banner can make a comp easier to beat, but its still generally the “same” setup. > [@Starlite](#): > > **Let me repeat my biggest issue here:** When I pay to see new opponents (or fight them), the same opponents keep reappearing **unacceptably often!** Also this. This a bunch of times. I remember one time where I went into casual PvP and refreshed into the same 4 three-trophy opponents about a dozen times in a row. Of course, I believe this is part of a larger issue with the matchmaking system in general. ---
**Author:** ![Starlite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/starlite/32/43018_2.png) [@Starlite](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Starlite)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 5:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-diversity-issues/52255/48 "2019-05-14T05:00:47Z")
@Mithran - I like your idea that “3 matching troops” would be considered a matching team. Your logic for this makes perfect sense. @Maxx - That’s pretty much what I was trying to say – just more diplomatically. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 7:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-diversity-issues/52255/49 "2019-05-16T07:52:40Z")
> [@Starlite](#): > > When I pay to see new opponents (or fight them), the same opponents keep reappearing **unacceptably often!** Come one, come all, as I prepare to show you a magic **trrrrick** wherein I will select the same opponent (an alarming) 13(??) times in a row by pressing the (Casual) ‘Refresh’ button not once, not thrice - NAY! - but a mere **two times**!!! A big shout out to @Bernice - you’re a super star 😝. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/6/2610d43a3bc3abd30409759b4d332d03568afa76.jpeg "Casual PvP Opponent Selection") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGX_4t8Rh2k) I was playing on my mobile when I started to notice @bigdog64 popping up a lot - and I thought, “Hey, they must be playing lots of PvP right now! Good on them, and what a great defence.” Then I realised it was predictably after two refreshes, without fail. I was about to switch to my PC so I could record it, when Bernice started showing up instead. Thankfully, she stayed around long enough for me mto get a good capture, with some special cameo/guest appearances by bigdog64 towards the end for good measure. Obviously, in this case, it worked out in my favour (so maybe it’ll become priority #1 😱), so I’m not really complaining. I just thought it was too good not to post. At ~15:21 you may see me refresh Casual PvP for ~3 mins straight for your viewing pleasure! Happy Gemming! ---
**Author:** ![Bernice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/bernice/32/76215_2.png) [@Bernice](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Bernice)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 11:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-diversity-issues/52255/50 "2019-05-16T11:48:18Z")
Thank you @Jonathan. This was fun to watch. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-diversity-issues/52255.md?page=2)