# PvP defence: weak team or Firebomb team? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [May 11, 2018, 3:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defence-weak-team-or-firebomb-team/39430 "2018-05-11T15:49:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![netwizard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/netwizard/32/35338_2.png) [@netwizard](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/netwizard)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 3:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defence-weak-team-or-firebomb-team/39430/1 "2018-05-11T15:49:53Z")
What is better for revenge farming? Unfortunately Ice Worms are level 5, not 1 due to VIP 5. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/1/a1816ae1bfb436189f4402201326d2ac74aa8801.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defence-weak-team-or-firebomb-team/39430/2 "2018-05-11T15:51:25Z")
Don’t think it matters much what defense you bore your opponents with. ---
**Author:** ![Barney\_Stinson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/barney_stinson/32/37796_2.png) [@Barney\_Stinson](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Barney_Stinson)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defence-weak-team-or-firebomb-team/39430/3 "2018-05-11T15:54:07Z")
i think firebomb, but many people skip firebomb teams, altrough low random teams are nothing other. they only doing no suicide. i take firebombs normally and attack every firebombteam because, its a freewin. why not ---
**Author:** ![netwizard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/netwizard/32/35338_2.png) [@netwizard](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/netwizard)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defence-weak-team-or-firebomb-team/39430/4 "2018-05-11T15:55:45Z")
Some people just farm Ranked PvP and fight Firebombs. Some people roll Casual PvP for easy 3000-6000 power opponents. Wait. If they defeat me in Casual, do I get a revenge battle? And another thing: I heard there is a bug when you get defeated in Casual it counts as a win for you. So confused as to what to pick. ---
**Author:** ![jeno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jeno/32/20235_2.png) [@jeno](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jeno)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defence-weak-team-or-firebomb-team/39430/5 "2018-05-11T16:06:18Z")
> [@Barney\_Stinson](#): > > many people skip firebomb teams who are these many people that skip firebomb? ---
**Author:** ![VenusBlue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/venusblue/32/38243_2.png) [@VenusBlue](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/VenusBlue)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defence-weak-team-or-firebomb-team/39430/6 "2018-05-11T16:23:43Z")
> [@netwizard](#): > > And another thing: I heard there is a bug when you get defeated in Casual it counts as a win for you. I’ve heard this too and would love to hear confirmation one way or another. I’ve had way too many wins with a fire bomb defense a few weeks ago. This week I’m 236/289 with four peasants (I changed it last night but wins are about the same). A level 1000+ player was in my battle log as a victory for me at least 7 times. I’m assuming that’s the explanation. ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defence-weak-team-or-firebomb-team/39430/7 "2018-05-11T17:24:06Z")
> [@VenusBlue](#): > > I’ve heard this too and would love to hear confirmation one way or another. This is correct. A friend of my wife’s sent her a screenshot of him beating her in PVP a day or two ago, then we could see the fight showing up as a defense win in her PVP battle log. He was in casual. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defence-weak-team-or-firebomb-team/39430/8 "2018-05-11T17:40:10Z")
Casual defense losses counting as wins prevents players from getting revenge battles for casual opponents. I don’t know if this is intentional or a convenient (for the dev team) side effect of a coding error. ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defence-weak-team-or-firebomb-team/39430/9 "2018-05-11T20:56:43Z")
I think casual battles counting as a win is intentional to prevent guilds from targeting players and dragging them down the leaderboard. I know the reverse is true, certain guilds with sister guilds BOOSTING players UP the leaderboards. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defence-weak-team-or-firebomb-team/39430/10 "2018-05-11T21:04:28Z")
To answer OP if you want to piss off other player you pick 4x flamebomb, if there is a pet gnome this is harder to kill before he escape And if you want to be fair you pick weak team ---
**Author:** ![Barney\_Stinson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/barney_stinson/32/37796_2.png) [@Barney\_Stinson](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Barney_Stinson)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 9:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defence-weak-team-or-firebomb-team/39430/11 "2018-05-12T09:49:31Z")
i read it many times here, firebombs are boring and not challenging enough… or its not 3 trophy, so it would be ignored ---
**Author:** ![Stripy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Stripy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stripy)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 10:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defence-weak-team-or-firebomb-team/39430/12 "2018-05-12T10:41:06Z")
Firebombs are boring. I will usually skip them even if they are three trophy. Having said that some people may prefer them… your choice which way to go ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 10:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defence-weak-team-or-firebomb-team/39430/13 "2018-05-12T10:56:18Z")
If you’re playing simply for enjoyment or a challenge Firebomb teams are boring, but if you’re just speed farming for resources they are welcomed. It all depends on the player. That being said, if everyone put up a Firebomb or joke defense it would ruin the game. I think the balance is good currently. ---
**Author:** ![Barney\_Stinson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/barney_stinson/32/37796_2.png) [@Barney\_Stinson](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Barney_Stinson)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defence-weak-team-or-firebomb-team/39430/14 "2018-05-12T16:03:32Z")
to say “i play for the challenge” in pvp is a joke considering by this ai und rng these days