# PVP Changes **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [March 18, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575 "2024-03-18T02:36:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Atka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e19b73/32.png) [@Atka](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Atka)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575/148 "2024-03-19T15:58:48Z")
I decided to stop playing PvP, don’t have half hours for every battle summoning troops here and there. Keep up the good work! Maybe you and all the devs can finally chase away all the players and look for a job that you all will like! I’m root for you, guys!! Until then i play less and less, just to help you. ---
**Author:** ![Rob17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc8723/32.png) [@Rob17](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rob17)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 4:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575/149 "2024-03-19T16:04:02Z")
You guys have wrecked this game hope your proud . You cant ever listen to community you dont do nothing we want you make thus game so unplayable losing wvery other fight cause you get looped by stella and wand all day long is so FUN its just the way i want to soend my day cursing ans swearing at a game that is just garbage now. Great job ---
**Author:** ![Rob17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc8723/32.png) [@Rob17](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rob17)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 4:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575/150 "2024-03-19T16:04:43Z")
Enough is enougj ---
**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575/151 "2024-03-19T16:05:19Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > The funny thing is that some people asked for these areas to be fixed to have attack teams. Most people could have seen that was a bad idea from a mile away. I saw it coming many miles away 😂 I started playing PvP again when it got updated because suddenly it wasn’t painful. Now it’s painful again. I’ll try playing enough to get the weekly rewards, but as things stand I expect it’ll be too frustrating to stick with it. ---
**Author:** ![Nrthrnlad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9fc29f/32.png) [@Nrthrnlad](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nrthrnlad)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575/152 "2024-03-19T16:08:26Z")
Always a good time to remind folks that the devs rebalanced the Vault event in a matter of hours when they realized they might lose gem spend. They are CAPABLE of fixing what’s broken. 9 times out of 10 they simply don’t want to. ---
**Author:** ![Shadowfeld](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Shadowfeld](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shadowfeld)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575/153 "2024-03-19T16:46:12Z")
A NOOB’s life. 1 - Survive until U acquire Rowanne 2 - Unlock Underworld 3 - Farm Chaos Shards\* (for new underworld troops to raise Kingdom Power levels) -Farm City of Thieves\* -Complete Challenges lvl 7 & 10\* [Changed to extremely difficult Trials] 4 - Gain fast Class XP -Farm City of Thieves\* -Tier 1 PvP\* (plus chance @ pet rescue) [Impossible now] \*with Rowanne If I was a NOOB, I’d quit. ---
**Author:** ![Hayabusa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hayabusa/32/85130_2.png) [@Hayabusa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hayabusa)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575/154 "2024-03-19T16:46:17Z")
Our highest ranked member just quit the game and deleted it, 3 more have announced to follow him on Sunday as they just want to finish the Boss event for everyone before leaving. As the 2nd ranked guild on Xbox that’s quite a bummer. “Good job” … @Kafka @Bramble ---
**Author:** ![Elfin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/258eb7/32.png) [@Elfin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Elfin)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 4:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575/155 "2024-03-19T16:55:16Z")
The first thing to fix should be to offer true low/middle/high battle options, along with non-repeat teams after each battle. If players have a real _choice_ in battles, a lot of these problems go away. There should at least be one battle option low enough that players don’t have to face the big bad meta teams. ---
**Author:** ![GANNICUS1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gannicus1/32/70687_2.png) [@GANNICUS1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GANNICUS1)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 4:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575/156 "2024-03-19T16:57:19Z")
you really ruin pvp for good now, not even going waste my time in pvp. if i wanted to grind i can do that in explores, with this new fix a lot more losses is the result and we have to change up the team every battle now, Devs you just better leave the game alone or go back to the old way pvp was run when we picked our own defenses. devs every time you do something to help lower levels you screw up things for the rest of the players that been playing a long time. So many high level players are quitting b/c they are mad and frustrated and new players now with this latest fix are really not interested in the game. you really dont have any concept on how most games are made . It use d to be here and still is in other games that when you are a noob you build up your build as you grow most players above level 1400 did that. A newer player should never have equal opportunity as a veteran player. Lower levels are supposed to lose more often it helps them learn but now they get frustrated and move on as well as many high levels are doing too. ---
**Author:** ![Tresk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tresk/32/98004_2.png) [@Tresk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tresk)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575/157 "2024-03-19T17:19:22Z")
> [@Sheffield](#): > > I think PVP isn’t actually bad now. But what needs to be changed is that **Elementalist** and the **Staff** or both need to be changed together. All you can see is the staff and the greatness. Constantly cleaning and the barrier and looping. here are the statistics Yes. Of course lets wreck things people use for all kinds of things to make your experience in one mode, more enjoyable. What a positively inspired idea! It worked so well when they did it to journey troops. smdh. ‘Stella’ is causing me the most angst. I don’t want it nerfed, because the people who have it, are having fun, with it. Let them! All they have to do to fix the pvp is revert back to no hero, or restrict hero classes/weapons in line with the troop restrictions. I’d prefer the reverting, but can live with the second option. If they keep nerfing things that people whine about in pvp, with zero thought to the rest of the game? That’s just short-sighted. ---
**Author:** ![GANNICUS1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gannicus1/32/70687_2.png) [@GANNICUS1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GANNICUS1)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575/158 "2024-03-19T17:24:26Z")
we will never see gw again b/c devs cant even get pvp fixed ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575/159 "2024-03-19T17:58:16Z")
> [@Kafka](#): > > Just wanted to let you know I’ve been keeping an eye in here. I’m going to be making another PVP feedback report this week, so while any time is a good time to give feedback, now is especially a good time to give PVP feedback! I can’t help but wonder what purpose giving such feedback could possibly serve. It’s not like there seems to be anybody interested in receiving our feedback. As a reminder, we’ve been asked for and given piles of feedback in regards to the Journey mode beginning of this year. Nobody ever responded, nothing at all has changed, next week we’ll get subjected to yet another terrible Journey tested for “bugs, balance and fun”. If your company is really interested in improving the situation, send someone able to improve the situation to directly communicate with us. Whatever those feedback reports are supposed to achieve for the players, it’s not working. ---
**Author:** ![FloofySummer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4da419/32.png) [@FloofySummer](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/FloofySummer)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575/160 "2024-03-19T17:58:27Z")
A lot of people have already put in their 2 cents but I still wanted to add my thoughts. First off, I don’t want anything to get nerfed, that’s not what anyone wants, what would be great though is making it so not only a handful of teams make sense. Alternatively, since I’m sure a lot of people don’t actually mind going against the really hard teams, a casual area in the new style would be great. I’m not sure if the metric was removed for getting points for defense wins and losses, if it wasn’t removed then I think having an option to set defense teams would be great, then your offense teams will be different from the defense ones. Overall I like the new PvP, it was more challenging then the old one and it was fun, the random AI teams that were generated I think was good honestly, it was still not as easy as before, but not as hard as going against really hardcore offense teams! Having that back, especially if wins/losses doesn’t give extra points for defense, is preferable over people’s active offense teams. ---
**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 6:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575/161 "2024-03-19T18:02:58Z")
I wonder. If you don’t want things to be nerfed, whats your idea of having both PVP (not PVE) AND not fall into whos-going-to-loop-with-blessed-wand-first issue? ---
**Author:** ![TheTruth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/thetruth/32/95516_2.png) [@TheTruth](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheTruth)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575/162 "2024-03-19T18:06:21Z")
Iv played red region all day. Using Wand Diamantina Takshaka Takshaka I’m not 1600 level yet. I’m winning 7 out of 10. I think people higher levels than me, saying there winning one out of ten. Maybe stretching the truth tbh. Just saying, yes it’s harder, but the points are now better since update. I do feel, whatever the gow developers do, will never please some people Also just to mention a bit of hypocrisy, if your saying that your winning one out of ten, because your not getting to have a turn against the meta troops, but then complained over the journey nerf, that also stopped people getting wins because of broken looping in PvP. Then you want both sides of the coin. You can’t hate one but love the other. As there both the same issue. ---
**Author:** ![Nrthrnlad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9fc29f/32.png) [@Nrthrnlad](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nrthrnlad)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575/163 "2024-03-19T18:12:51Z")
For the most part nobody wants troop or weapon nerfs. We want battle options instead of stellarix infinitum. Even in regions where stellarix is restricted, the current methodology assures that one super meta will dominate the battle options. Low Mid High need to be distinct battle options. Instead we are seeing meta x3 for every battle. ---
**Author:** ![TheTruth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/thetruth/32/95516_2.png) [@TheTruth](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheTruth)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575/164 "2024-03-19T18:15:11Z")
Like iv asked for above. Kingdom restrictions should be for all 4 troops. Construct , should only allow geomancer class. This needs fixing. Colours are colours, but troops should include troop class. Then people who can’t beat meta, colour troops. Stella Diam Tak Zuul Can play outa ring. ---
**Author:** ![JamesDurning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@JamesDurning](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JamesDurning)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575/165 "2024-03-19T18:54:33Z")
Let’s not kid ourselves. The only class people have a problem with is Elementalist.However, the Elementalist class problem pales in comparison to the other PVP meta issues. It’s annoying to lose 2 battles in a row to a second turn Stellatrix. However, I can’t see winning only 1 out of 10 unless you have a terrible team comp or refuse to use Elementalist on principle. It’s nicer to not be forced to use Elementalist though. ---
**Author:** ![GANNICUS1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gannicus1/32/70687_2.png) [@GANNICUS1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GANNICUS1)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575/166 "2024-03-19T19:02:01Z")
put takshaka in the soul forge so we can have more then 1 takshaka. I’m sitting on 73k diamonds now and i could use them to get this mytic @Kafka ---
**Author:** ![GANNICUS1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gannicus1/32/70687_2.png) [@GANNICUS1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GANNICUS1)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575/167 "2024-03-19T19:04:30Z")
nice when you have 2 or more takshaka but many dont have 1 or or many only have 1. I’m vip 20 if vip rank went higher i probably be vip 40-60 by now but i dont have stellarix there is less high levels that have either b/c of low drop ratios. the devs broke pvp like they broke gw. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575.md?page=7) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-changes/83575.md?page=9)