# Psion's Siphon not working on troops with Ancestry-Traits
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psions-siphon-not-working-on-troops-with-ancestry-traits/39319
**Category:** Bug Reports
**Created:** [May 8, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psions-siphon-not-working-on-troops-with-ancestry-traits/39319 "2018-05-08T21:05:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author:  [@ValdarX](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ValdarX)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psions-siphon-not-working-on-troops-with-ancestry-traits/39319/1 "2018-05-08T21:05:46Z")
**Platform, device version and operating system**
At least Android & Steam
**What you were expecting to happen, and what actually happened**
When Psion matches skulls versus Diviner, Diviner keeps its Mana and Psion does not get any via his Siphon-Trait. I expected the trait to work because Diviner is only immune to Mana **Drain** , not Mana **Steal**.
(I expected immunity to Mana Steal to be an advantage of Mana shield over Sky Ancestry, but currently Sky Ancestry comprises all of the Mana shield functions + immunity to silence and faerie fire)
**How often does this happen? When did it begin happening?**
Always reproducable
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### Author:  [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psions-siphon-not-working-on-troops-with-ancestry-traits/39319/2 "2018-05-08T21:07:07Z")
> [@ValdarX](#):
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> I expected the trait to work because Diviner is only immune to Mana Drain, not Mana Steal.
It’s working as intended, as it is immune to Mana Drain, it also means no troop can steal their mana.
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### Author:  [@ValdarX](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ValdarX)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psions-siphon-not-working-on-troops-with-ancestry-traits/39319/3 "2018-05-08T21:14:07Z")
> [@Eika](#):
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> It’s working as intended, as it is immune to Mana Drain, it also means no troop can steal their mana.
If that is true, whats the sense in listing Immunity to Mana Steal and Drain separately in the description of Mana shield?
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### Author:  [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psions-siphon-not-working-on-troops-with-ancestry-traits/39319/4 "2018-05-08T21:16:53Z")
> [@Psion-Diviner interaction/Clarification about Mana Steal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psion-diviner-interaction-clarification-about-mana-steal/36885/22):
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> Yep. Just like Orc traits specifically state “when I take damage to life”, but all traits that center around taking generic (ie., not skull) damage (Frenzy, Aspect of Humility, Orbweavers third trait) all only trigger when taking damage to life. Conversely, traits that trigger when taking skull damage trigger when the opponent matches skulls, regardless of what was hit. Traits that trigger on skull damage have a bunch of different terms used that doesn’t necessarily track with how they funct…
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### Author:  [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2018, 9:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psions-siphon-not-working-on-troops-with-ancestry-traits/39319/5 "2018-05-09T09:22:29Z")
> [@ValdarX](#):
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> If that is true, whats the sense in listing Immunity to Mana Steal and Drain separately in the description of Mana shield?
It’s immunity to Mana **BURN** and Mana Drain. Mana Burn means receiving damage for each point of mana you currently have.
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### Author:  [@ValdarX](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ValdarX)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psions-siphon-not-working-on-troops-with-ancestry-traits/39319/6 "2018-05-09T18:25:20Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#):
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> It’s immunity to Mana BURN and Mana Drain. Mana Burn means receiving damage for each point of mana you currently have.
I did not mention Mana Burn because it is not related at all to my report.
But for the sake of completeness:
Mana Shield: “Immunity to Mana Burn, Mana **Drain** and Mana **Steal** ”
Sky Ancestry: “Immune to Mana **Drain** , Silence, Faerie Fire, and Mana Burn.”
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### Author:  [@ValdarX](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ValdarX)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psions-siphon-not-working-on-troops-with-ancestry-traits/39319/7 "2018-05-09T18:38:00Z")
thanks @Eika
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### Author:  [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psions-siphon-not-working-on-troops-with-ancestry-traits/39319/8 "2018-05-09T18:38:32Z")
Welcome. 🙂
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### Author:  [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psions-siphon-not-working-on-troops-with-ancestry-traits/39319/9 "2018-05-09T18:52:27Z")
It’s still a good bug report. Because this screams to have them update the text for clarity. I’ve even read this question it in chat, clubs, etc… Starting at the “Ancestry” changes.
I almost think sometimes the developers like overloading the support team with the same old issues for kicks. /s /?
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### Author:  [@Taliesin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taliesin)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psions-siphon-not-working-on-troops-with-ancestry-traits/39319/10 "2018-05-09T20:13:59Z")
The trait is pretty clear in how it is worded already. Diviner and pretty much every elf in the game now can’t have their mana drained unless they are stunned first.
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### Author:  [@ValdarX](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ValdarX)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2018, 8:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psions-siphon-not-working-on-troops-with-ancestry-traits/39319/11 "2018-05-10T08:56:16Z")
> [@Taliesin](#):
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> The trait is pretty clear in how it is worded already. Diviner and pretty much every elf in the game now can’t have their mana drained unless they are stunned first.
Obviously not, the traits descriptions are inconsistent. For Mana shield, immunity to mana steal is mentioned explicitely, but not for the Ancestry traits.
I’d like to see either the mana steal description removed from Mana shield for shortness reasons or added to the ancestry traits for clarity reasons.