# Psion-Diviner interaction/Clarification about Mana Steal

**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psion-diviner-interaction-clarification-about-mana-steal/36885
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [March 10, 2018, 5:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psion-diviner-interaction-clarification-about-mana-steal/36885 "2018-03-10T05:25:04Z")
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### Author: ![Lilith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e36b37/32.png) [@Lilith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lilith)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2018, 11:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psion-diviner-interaction-clarification-about-mana-steal/36885/21 "2018-03-10T11:01:52Z")

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I think the problem is mana shield has mana steal immunity explicitly stated, without this the mana drain immunity protecting from mana steal would be an intuitive leap.

As a side note troops also use the word kill, sacrifice and destroy to mean the same thing

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### Author: ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2018, 11:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psion-diviner-interaction-clarification-about-mana-steal/36885/22 "2018-03-10T11:32:36Z")

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> [@Lilith](#):
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> I think the problem is mana shield has mana steal immunity explicitly stated, without this the mana drain immunity protecting from mana steal would be an intuitive leap.

Yep. Just like Orc traits specifically state “when I take damage to life”, but all traits that center around taking generic (ie., not skull) damage (Frenzy, Aspect of Humility, Orbweavers third trait) **all** only trigger when taking damage to life. Conversely, traits that trigger when taking _skull_ damage trigger when the opponent matches skulls, regardless of what was hit. Traits that trigger _on_ skull damage have a bunch of different terms used that doesn’t necessarily track with how they function, with functions including “only works if the attack resulted in damage (including to armor)”, “can trigger every time skulls are matched, regardless if attack 0 or any damage was dealt”, “triggers if skulls are matched and my attack is greater than zero, damage dealt doesn’t matter”, and “triggers on every skull match even if I am not in first slot”.

> [@Jainus](#):
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> That would be nice. We should just set @shimrra and @Mithran to go through them once and for all. However, note that card text boxes are also kinda small…

In this case, they just didn’t need to specify Mana Steal separately from the others, since without this distinction, the reasonable assumption would be that Mana Drain immunity would make you immune to mana steal (including from the OP). Humility/orbweaver/frenzy traits just need the words “to life” added to them. Skull trait terminology and functionality is a bit of a rats nest, though, and they really need description passes for **everything** , including the usage of keywords like “transform” referring to two different mechanics, ambiguous lethal damage terms, and a way to filter where you are searching for your keyword (so you can search for things like “elf” or “orc” or “war” or “poison” and get the troops you are actually looking for).

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