# PSA: Maybe make a defense team that isn't horrid

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\
**Created:** [May 25, 2016, 11:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346 "2016-05-25T23:41:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kzintiwife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kzintiwife/32/2350_2.png) [@kzintiwife](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kzintiwife)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346/21 "2016-05-26T02:13:46Z")

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> [@Malkav](#):
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> I chose poorly–like that guy in Indian Jones

Me too, what would be awesome is a refund all button - where everything gets sets to 1 and all gems refunded… that way i could redo my stuff.

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**Author:** ![Mufasha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mufasha/32/1327_2.png) [@Mufasha](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mufasha)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346/22 "2016-05-26T02:16:15Z")

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Holy hell, that would be the worst button me me…releveling all those troops would take forever and probably wind up messing with the stars on my kingdoms

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**Author:** ![kzintiwife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kzintiwife/32/2350_2.png) [@kzintiwife](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kzintiwife)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346/23 "2016-05-26T02:17:18Z")

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> [@Mufasha](#):
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> wind up messing with the stars on my kingdoms

exactly - first i would trait the 12 troops or so i use, then restar the kingdoms i want, then work on the others.

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**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346/24 "2016-05-26T02:17:47Z")

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You could use that Kingdom Planner spreadsheet that someone made to be efficient about it? 😛

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**Author:** ![kzintiwife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kzintiwife/32/2350_2.png) [@kzintiwife](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kzintiwife)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346/25 "2016-05-26T02:18:14Z")

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i made my own excel sheet with LOTS of other info too 🙂

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**Author:** ![Malkav](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/malkav/32/3562_2.png) [@Malkav](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Malkav)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346/26 "2016-05-26T02:18:40Z")

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> [@kzintiwife](#):
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> Me too, what would be awesome is a refund all button

I think I just had a hot flash … and I’m a guy …

Oh man, I would do it in a skinny minute.

I traited a lot of stuff to experiment with during my “wine cooldown” of the evening. Maybe I would have made better choices had I had more cooldown and less wine…

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**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346/27 "2016-05-26T02:19:50Z")

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Out of curiosity would a “Reset button” like that be something people would be interested in having as a microtransaction? It seems like the kind of thing that might become one if there is a demand for it…

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**Author:** ![Mufasha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mufasha/32/1327_2.png) [@Mufasha](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mufasha)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346/28 "2016-05-26T02:20:41Z")

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I don’t oppose such a button. I just cower in fear at the Armageddon

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**Author:** ![kzintiwife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kzintiwife/32/2350_2.png) [@kzintiwife](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kzintiwife)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346/29 "2016-05-26T02:21:00Z")

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> [@Ozball](#):
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> microtransaction

probably spend between 1 and 5 bucks for that…

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**Author:** ![Malkav](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/malkav/32/3562_2.png) [@Malkav](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Malkav)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346/30 "2016-05-26T02:21:42Z")

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> [@Ozball](#):
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> be interested in having as a microtransaction?

Where do I mail the check? 💵

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**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346/31 "2016-05-26T02:22:29Z")

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To be honest, I feel like it wouldn’t be that cheap. They wouldn’t want people doing it every time there was a tiny shift in the meta. But I’d be curious as to @Sirrian’s or @Nimhain’s thoughts on the matter (once they are less flat out from the patch 😛 )

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**Author:** ![kzintiwife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kzintiwife/32/2350_2.png) [@kzintiwife](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kzintiwife)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346/32 "2016-05-26T02:24:35Z")

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considering i havent spent any yet… and the dragon armor is out of my pricing. I dont mind spending 5 here and 5 there, just havent had the funds - but for that — i might stand on the corner with a sign saying “addicted - anything helps”

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**Author:** ![ichirakorasaki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ichirakorasaki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ichirakorasaki)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346/33 "2016-05-26T02:24:54Z")

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So people can’t do that anymore?

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**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346/34 "2016-05-26T02:27:41Z")

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I’m trying to track down where it was mentioned, but I’m pretty sure that it’s been said that it will no longer be possible. Please hold while I find the post though 😛

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**Author:** ![ichirakorasaki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ichirakorasaki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ichirakorasaki)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346/35 "2016-05-26T02:28:35Z")

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Haha, alrighty 😛

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**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346/36 "2016-05-26T02:31:41Z")

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Found it:

> [@2.0 PvP Preview](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/36):
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> Yes indeed! You bet! I KNOW that a few people will lose a few points due to honestly unfortunate circumstances, but it’s the only way a system like this can work.

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**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346/37 "2016-05-26T02:33:09Z")

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If you quit out of a match (or legitimately get disconnected even), you lose PVP points but you don’t lose a trophy. Andrew (a dev) confirmed that earlier today.

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**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346/38 "2016-05-26T02:34:45Z")

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As @Ashasekayi said:

> [@PvP Trophy Concern](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-trophy-concern/7318/7):
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> In 2.0 you don’t lose trophies in PvP anymore slight_smile

Though I believe that means you don’t lost trophies at all in PVP even on a normal loss?

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**Author:** ![ichirakorasaki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ichirakorasaki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ichirakorasaki)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346/39 "2016-05-26T02:34:56Z")

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Welp, RIP perfect pvp record xD I don’t mind though, haha. Not like it matters much 💀

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**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/psa-maybe-make-a-defense-team-that-isnt-horrid/7346/40 "2016-05-26T02:38:04Z")

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> [@Ozball](#):
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> As @Ashasekayi said:
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> [PvP Trophy Concern - #7 by Andrew](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-trophy-concern/7318/7)
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> Though I believe that means you don’t lost trophies at all in PVP even on a normal loss?

That’s how I understood it. You wouldn’t lose trophies for the guild either way now.

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