# Primal and Vault kingdoms when? **URL:** \ **Category:** Spoilers\ **Created:** [May 8, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312 "2018-05-08T17:37:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jzg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jzg/32/53451_2.png) [@jzg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jzg)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312/1 "2018-05-08T17:37:57Z")
Soon TM or not? ![zzzz](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/2/6247eb3bd73b1603bbe2b4d135967ee5f3f31477.jpg) My circles are great ---
**Author:** ![Zwiezda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zwiezda/32/39508_2.png) [@Zwiezda](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zwiezda)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312/2 "2018-05-08T17:40:41Z")
1 like from me for the great circles! ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312/3 "2018-05-08T18:33:05Z")
I have a feeling that’s some wierdo feature of the beta client than a sign they actually plan the kingdoms. Anyone who could tell us what happens when you tap those is probably bound to _not_ tell us 😛 ---
**Author:** ![GameTagwastaken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ab992/32.png) [@GameTagwastaken](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GameTagwastaken)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312/4 "2018-05-08T18:40:45Z")
She scrolled down to the bottom of the map and said something like “Oops, you guys weren’t supposed to see that yet” and scrolled back up tot he top of the map. So while we can’t say that they’ll be regular kingdoms, I don’t think it’s just something that’s in the dev kit not meant for production. ---
**Author:** ![Maxthor2789](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@Maxthor2789](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxthor2789)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312/5 "2018-05-08T18:58:39Z")
I watched the video from last night stream and I didn’t saw the part where she scrolls down. It got edited? ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312/6 "2018-05-08T19:01:45Z")
> [@Gems of Streaming](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/1062): > > Thanks for joining me everyone. Next week me and @Cyrup have an exciting announcement! Way to go @jzg. I think you just ruined their surprise. 😉😆 Surely there will also be an Apocalypse kingdom as well? Can’t wait to have them all 3 ⭐. Lol And guild guardians??? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312/7 "2018-05-08T20:24:48Z")
It was very much at the end. I had to go back and look at it after the stream. At some point in the last 2 minutes, her camera froze. While it was frozen, she put up the code. Shortly after that, the camera came back and she scrolled around for some reason, revealing this part of the map. She quickly scrolled away and mentioned we weren’t supposed to see it. ---
**Author:** ![Maxthor2789](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@Maxthor2789](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxthor2789)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 11:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312/8 "2018-05-08T23:29:17Z")
Oh ya I just saw it now. I had close the video when I saw the camera gone that’s why I didn’t get it at first ---
**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 11:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312/9 "2018-05-08T23:34:45Z")
When? I think they’ll be available right with Apocalypse and Guardians kingdoms. ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312/10 "2018-05-09T00:32:55Z")
@Taransworld found [some banners](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change/1280/6059) recently. I was surprised that nobody comment about them… So 4 new kingdoms? The map is going to be overloaded 😛 . ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 2:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312/11 "2018-05-09T02:34:52Z")
> [@turintuor](#): > > So 4 new kingdoms? The map is going to be overloaded 😛 . There’s going to be a new map I thought? An underworld that the Friday kingdom will be on? ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 2:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312/12 "2018-05-09T02:39:18Z")
> [@turintuor](#): > > @Taransworld found some banners recently. I was surprised that nobody comment about them… ![Screenshot_20180508-213525_Chrome](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/8/6884c6dab39769693910e2ffbd8a42acb8e57119.jpg) My guesses are: 1. Pride 2. Guild Guardians 3. Apocalypse 4. The Vault 5. Dhrak-Zum ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 2:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312/13 "2018-05-09T02:40:54Z")
Use your words @Ozball. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Crow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/crow/32/44074_2.png) [@Crow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Crow)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 2:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312/14 "2018-05-09T02:42:42Z")
I summon thee @Ozball grant us wisdom and eternal life! ---
**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 2:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312/15 "2018-05-09T02:43:33Z")
I’m just pointing out that the localtion of Dhrak-Zum and the banner were both shown on the stream yesterday by Salty 😛 (it’s not on some new map, and it’s not one of the 5 banner linked above) ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 2:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312/16 "2018-05-09T02:55:47Z")
> [@Ozball](#): > > it’s not on some new map, and it’s not one of the 5 banner linked above) So what you’re saying is the fifth banner will be on the new map (probably new kingdom in 2-3 months)? Or was that idea scrapped? ---
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 3:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312/17 "2018-05-09T03:41:55Z")
You all saw nothing. ![all%2Bseeing%2Beye](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/b/bf98eaad80b3410242edc5a475e33f8204cc1e21.gif) ---
**Author:** ![KYLENATOR001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kylenator001/32/33983_2.png) [@KYLENATOR001](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KYLENATOR001)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 6:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312/18 "2018-05-09T06:17:45Z")
Or you are trying to distract us. That’s so illuminaughty. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 12:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312/19 "2018-05-10T00:57:22Z")
So the vault will get a kingdom and nothing for the imps and apocalypse? ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 1:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312/20 "2018-05-10T01:10:49Z")
@Taransworld [found that the last banner](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change/1280/6062) (i.e. thunderbolt) has the same id than Apocalypse’s kingdom (each kingdom has a number). I guess that the next kingdom will use the 1st banner (i.e. eye for a beholder kingdom). > [@Rickygervais](#): > > So the vault will get a kingdom and nothing for the imps and apocalypse? We only saw a part of the map and so, only two new kingdoms. Kingdoms ofthe imps and apocalypse are surely in another part of the map that we didn’t see during the stream. If you check previous posts, banners for all kingdoms have been found. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/primal-and-vault-kingdoms-when/39312.md?page=2)