# POLL: How do you feel about the Valkyrie changes? **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [October 26, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368 "2016-10-26T01:24:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![LostInLust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lostinlust/32/19371_2.png) [@LostInLust](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/LostInLust)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368/103 "2016-10-26T15:45:50Z")
You are just jealous about my feelings and thats a sin. šŸ˜ ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 3:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368/104 "2016-10-26T15:47:30Z")
Nah, I gave up psychedelics a long time ago. My kids still think Iā€™m certifiably insane so I guess it didnā€™t too much good, though. šŸ˜‡ ---
**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368/105 "2016-10-26T16:01:51Z")
I meant you liked my post, not the poll. I donā€™t care how that ends up. ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368/106 "2016-10-26T16:02:54Z")
Ah, no worries. And yes, I did like your post. I donā€™t see this discussion as completely binary. Thereā€™s meritorious arguments coming from every directionā€¦ šŸ‘ ---
**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368/108 "2016-10-26T16:20:58Z")
Meh, Valk was good while it lasted. Over powered and over used yes. ---
**Author:** ![Jorx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@Jorx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jorx)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368/109 "2016-10-26T16:21:27Z")
I like the change. Balancing Cards/Troops/whatever in terms of making the decision between them more narrow makes the game more interesting. It adds variety to the game. Iā€™ll give you two examples: 1. every card does some average damage and you get 10 souls per kill. This way, whatever you take into your deck, does not matter that much. Typically, such sets result in ā€œmass over skillā€, i.e. the person with the most expensive cards/troops/ships wins. 2. every card/troop has a unique ability, with up- and downsides. This way, you can tune your fleet/deck to whatever your needs are, but you are guaranteed to take a hit on something. You want souls? Here you go - but you wonā€™t be doing much damage. You want high damage? No problem dude, but you wonā€™t be getting that many souls. All in all, I think a strong card does not even need side benefits. Valkyrie is strong even without souls consideration: you generate blue mana for cost of 10, **and** you even can emphasize it by water link. This is pretty much unparallelled as fuel for whatever card you need. Getting some souls per cast is adding some cream to it. Having Necromancy on top was already strong (but limited by cap), and with the change in Necromancy, this card would have become a must for every deck. The whole game would focus then on this card only - and the graph shown by @Nimhain only confirms this consideration. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368/110 "2016-10-26T16:32:13Z")
None of this matters as long as the strongest Troops are continually released with Blue as a Mana color. Players are still going to overuse Valkyrie. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368/111 "2016-10-26T16:36:46Z")
Alsoā€¦ Honestly, people complained about ā€œbeing forced to use Valkyrieā€ and her ā€œbeing the only option for Soulsā€ for so long, the Devs solved those two issues. Technically, they did what everyone asked for. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368/112 "2016-10-26T16:58:05Z")
I just agreed with two @TaliaParks posts in a rowā€¦ eugh, what is happening to me??? James please say something trollish to repair my world view? šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368/113 "2016-10-26T16:59:24Z")
Second one sounded trollish to me ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 5:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368/114 "2016-10-26T17:11:02Z")
> [@Jainus](#): > > I just agreed with two @TaliaParks posts in a rowā€¦ eugh, what is happening to me??? > > James please say something trollish to repair my world view? šŸ˜ƒ ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/0/0d7f9e55c334facc0701f3a1fde7817148f48852.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 5:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368/115 "2016-10-26T17:11:25Z")
> [@LostInLust](#): > > You are just jealous about my feelings and thats a sin. šŸ˜ I think he is jealous of your cool wig. And suddenly while i was getting ready to post i just realized that the wig has all the mana colors. šŸ˜² ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368/116 "2016-10-26T17:14:03Z")
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**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368/117 "2016-10-26T17:19:43Z")
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**Author:** ![LostInLust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lostinlust/32/19371_2.png) [@LostInLust](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/LostInLust)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368/118 "2016-10-26T17:25:15Z")
> [@Ivar](#): > > And suddenly while i was getting ready to post i just realized that the wig has all the mana colors. šŸ˜² ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/2/2d14bc80dc1d522490e2443799b312473e8db3cc.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368/119 "2016-10-26T17:26:12Z")
I have a mind blown gif but it wouldnt last 10 minutes if I posted it ---
**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368/120 "2016-10-26T17:32:11Z")
Sorry OP. Iā€™m just following the trend. Got to. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/7/7813dfd915b153e11e56d84aaee5bbeb134e09e9.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368/121 "2016-10-26T17:59:22Z")
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**Author:** ![kzintiwife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kzintiwife/32/2350_2.png) [@kzintiwife](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kzintiwife)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368/122 "2016-10-26T18:24:52Z")
i have over 80k of souls in my deck, but i was also playing my 2 kids accounts while they were at school - they had no where near enough souls. so here is my point of viewā€¦ Valkyrie: makes souls AND changes any color to blue Banshee: makes souls AND changes blue to red AND does damage Avina: makes souls AND damage AND extra damage to undead Dragon Soul: makes souls AND destroys 3 columns of stuff AND does damage to ALL Wight: makes souls AND steals life AND makes a few purpleā€¦ so really - shes fairly low cost soul makerā€¦ but her true power lies in the color transform. Which is why i used her - on all the accounts i was running. Not the souls. its like getting a corner piece of a white cake with frosting and complaining because you didnā€™t get a rose. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/0/032528b6d2fbf2a5230873878d23d5e48f99212e.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368/123 "2016-10-26T18:28:49Z")
Yeah, but the issue lies within Sirrian saying this happened because of how much she gets used. Sheā€™s the fastest blue mana generator in the game, which is why imo she was used as much. I havenā€™t changed my main team a bit. The chart says sheā€™s used, but it doesnā€™t break down if thatā€™s because of souls or because sheā€™s a great mana generator. Also, as itā€™s been pointed out that the best/most used troops in the game right now all require blue mana. Itā€™s a no-brainer. We all knew something was going to happen to her, but some of us donā€™t like how it was handled or the timing. Itā€™s like beating a dead horse, but logic dictates this was handled semi-poorly. I even agree with everyone saying the souls are about the same, but the teams most people have to make now are messed up. Itā€™s like weā€™re being locked in worse than before WITH Valkyrie. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368.md?page=5) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/poll-how-do-you-feel-about-the-valkyrie-changes/14368.md?page=7)