# Please give The Archdeva also an extra turn in his spell

**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/please-give-the-archdeva-also-an-extra-turn-in-his-spell/80355
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback
**Created:** [July 3, 2023, 12:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/please-give-the-archdeva-also-an-extra-turn-in-his-spell/80355 "2023-07-03T00:51:37Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author: ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2023, 12:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/please-give-the-archdeva-also-an-extra-turn-in-his-spell/80355/1 "2023-07-03T00:51:37Z")

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Think he deserves it as he also has a cast spell only once. 🕺

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### Author: ![Draegor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/draegor/32/70763_2.png) [@Draegor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draegor)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2023, 2:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/please-give-the-archdeva-also-an-extra-turn-in-his-spell/80355/2 "2023-07-03T14:41:50Z")

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This would actually turn a middling troop into something quite good, I like the idea!!

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### Author: ![redmist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/redmist/32/59905_2.png) [@redmist](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/redmist)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2023, 3:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/please-give-the-archdeva-also-an-extra-turn-in-his-spell/80355/3 "2023-07-03T15:28:57Z")

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I disagree, I’m afraid. I think it is close to being over-powered now given it can boost and make ready a mythic troop with an even higher mana cost. Adding an extra-turn to his skill would turn him into an ‘easy mode’ button.

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### Author: ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2023, 3:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/please-give-the-archdeva-also-an-extra-turn-in-his-spell/80355/4 "2023-07-03T15:35:36Z")

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I’m inclined to disagree as well. I’ve only ever seen it on opposing teams myself, and this is a pretty sizable ally boost (comparable to Devouring an enemy, just without the kill). There’s no way somebody hasn’t paired it with Zuul for a double kill, and do consider that Mythic trait as well.

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### Author: ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/please-give-the-archdeva-also-an-extra-turn-in-his-spell/80355/5 "2023-07-03T16:20:18Z")

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> [@Draegor](#):
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> This would actually turn a middling troop into something quite good, I like the idea!!

Thank you, I also think it is a superb i dea! 😍

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### Author: ![Draegor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/draegor/32/70763_2.png) [@Draegor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draegor)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2023, 10:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/please-give-the-archdeva-also-an-extra-turn-in-his-spell/80355/6 "2023-07-05T10:58:03Z")

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How is that a bad thing? It isnt.

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### Author: ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2023, 1:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/please-give-the-archdeva-also-an-extra-turn-in-his-spell/80355/7 "2023-07-05T13:18:22Z")

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> [@Draegor](#):
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> How is that a bad thing? It isnt.

While I agree with you, it is important that they can have their voice as well. Some fear annoying Guild Wars with another buff to this troop, other fear PvP and that this troop may fill up Zuul whenever it get the chance, while it may be random. Other just don’t like buffs or stronger troops and therefore they never crafted Zuul. A lot of different people with different opinions.

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### Author: ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2023, 3:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/please-give-the-archdeva-also-an-extra-turn-in-his-spell/80355/8 "2023-07-05T15:30:37Z")

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> [@Draegor](#):
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> How is that a bad thing? It isnt.

I don’t have enough experience with this troop to provide a detailed argument here, sorry. It’s just my first impression, not strictly calling it a “bad” idea but rather asking what is there that makes it a _good_ idea.

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### Author: ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2023, 3:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/please-give-the-archdeva-also-an-extra-turn-in-his-spell/80355/9 "2023-07-05T15:48:55Z")

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> [@Stratelier](#):
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> but rather asking what is there that makes it a _good_ idea.

It is a good idea beacause to have a Mythic troop that manage both give another troop full mana + an extra turn at the same time is pretty unique. Mythic worthy at least.

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### Author: ![Draegor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/draegor/32/70763_2.png) [@Draegor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draegor)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2023, 5:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/please-give-the-archdeva-also-an-extra-turn-in-his-spell/80355/10 "2023-07-08T05:48:19Z")

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Well, at the moment Archdeva sees almost zero use at all, this would give it some niche purpose and make it actually fun.

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### Author: ![XLS78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b2d939/32.png) [@XLS78](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/XLS78)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2023, 1:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/please-give-the-archdeva-also-an-extra-turn-in-his-spell/80355/11 "2023-07-08T13:41:03Z")

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Maybe you just need the right deck for it? After Archdeva casts, GA can do 180+ damage to all using this if you have maxed starry Whitehelm pet and such:

[6992,6296,1401,6632,3019,3,2,1,1,2,2,1,14003]
