# Placement in leaderboards now entirely luck based?

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**Created:** [February 22, 2018, 12:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/placement-in-leaderboards-now-entirely-luck-based/36085 "2018-02-22T12:06:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nimhain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nimhain/32/47049_2.png) [@Nimhain](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nimhain)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 1:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/placement-in-leaderboards-now-entirely-luck-based/36085/11 "2018-02-22T13:18:25Z")

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While the Valraven is part of the Gnome kingdom and family, it works a little differently.

The Valraven has a form of counter on it (which Treasure Gnomes do not). It caps the minimum & maximum valravens each player will see at any point in the game. The most anyone will get ahead or behind is by a single valraven encounter.

This means all players should encounter the Valraven within plus/minus one of everyone else.

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