# Pharos Ra Support Group... All Welcome... šŸ˜­ **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [November 19, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262 "2017-11-19T15:48:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262/143 "2017-11-27T20:13:37Z")
At least someone have the chance to craft Euryali and Famine this week. Better luck next time Pharos chasers! ---
**Author:** ![VenusBlue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/venusblue/32/38243_2.png) [@VenusBlue](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/VenusBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262/144 "2017-11-27T20:19:39Z")
Thatā€™s exactly what i did. I gave up completely on any hope of pharos and crafted famine. Of course that probably means pharos will be in there next week and i will be kicking myself as i already had all the stones saved to trait him. Oh well, least i have four mythics now. ---
**Author:** ![Nimhain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nimhain/32/47049_2.png) [@Nimhain](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nimhain)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262/147 "2017-11-27T23:50:09Z")
While thereā€™s no Pharos-Ra this week, we have made a small change to the Soulforge random selector. Weā€™ve made it so that troops will no longer repeat in the Soulforge week to week (so no more 4+ weeks of Ketras hogging the spotlight). ---
**Author:** ![efh313](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/efh313/32/34349_2.png) [@efh313](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/efh313)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262/148 "2017-11-27T23:54:05Z")
All Praise @Nimhain!!! You have made my month!!! And I bought a house a week ago!!! šŸ˜‚ ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 11:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262/149 "2017-11-27T23:56:26Z")
Wait, does that mean that a mythic could theoretically still never come up? That is, is it only the previous weekā€™s craftable mythics that will be excluded from the current weekā€™s soulforge? Or is it more of a random process of elimination until everyone has appeared and the cycle starts anew? ---
**Author:** ![Nimhain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nimhain/32/47049_2.png) [@Nimhain](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nimhain)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 12:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262/150 "2017-11-28T00:00:53Z")
So the selection is still random, but it does mean that mythics available in a previous week cannot be selected in the following week. (We do have more improvements planned but itā€™s not going to happen until next year, sorry). > [@efh313](#): > > All Praise @Nimhain!!! > > You have made my month!!! > > And I bought a house a week ago!!! Iā€™m not sure I can beat a house thoughā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 12:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262/151 "2017-11-28T00:01:57Z")
> [@Nimhain](#): > > So the selection is still random, but it does mean that mythics available in a previous week cannot be selected in the following week. Thanks for the quick response. While I already have Pharos, Iā€™m sure the group appreciates anything to tip the odds in their favor for next week. ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 12:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262/152 "2017-11-28T00:04:04Z")
Can you add a weight to each troop according to their amount of occurence since Soulforgeā€™s release (ie small if the troop appears often, high if the troop appears only few times)? ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 12:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262/153 "2017-11-28T00:04:47Z")
Ok let say WB show this week that mean he wonā€™t show next week. But nothing said he wont appear againt the third weekā€¦ Itā€™s a little better but there is so much place for improvement. Please make them all avalaible this is the most simple and realistic solution. ---
**Author:** ![efh313](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/efh313/32/34349_2.png) [@efh313](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/efh313)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 12:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262/154 "2017-11-28T00:16:36Z")
Ok, so since I misunderstood and they are not out of rotation until all others have been selectedā€¦ The house is still betterā€¦ šŸ˜‰ But you have taken the first step! Just go all the way @Nimhain, troops donā€™t repeat until all have cycled. Itā€™s right thereā€¦ justā€¦ do itā€¦ šŸ˜¬ You know you want toā€¦ šŸ˜¢ ---
**Author:** ![Nimhain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nimhain/32/47049_2.png) [@Nimhain](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nimhain)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262/155 "2017-11-28T00:40:01Z")
> [@efh313](#): > > But you have taken the first step! Just go all the way @Nimhain, troops donā€™t repeat until all have cycled. Itā€™s right thereā€¦ justā€¦ do itā€¦ Like I said we have more improvements planned. _Edit: I believe not all the changes can be made server side, (Iā€™m not 100% sure though)_ ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 1:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262/156 "2017-11-28T01:22:36Z")
The modifications are not that difficult to implement: - I guess you have the history of the Soulforge (as @Taransworld has it on his websiteā€¦) and so on you know for each Mythic troop his number of occurence since Soulforge release: _troopOcc_ - find the max number of occurence: _Max_ (currently Ketras with 7 occurences) - when you fill your pool of candidates, put (_Max_ - _troopOcc_) copies of each troop - apply your RNG selector 4 times with a check for no duplicate Of course, you cannot do that if you donā€™t have the Soulforge historyā€¦ but you can: - put all the Mythics - change to a daily reset of the Soulforge - increase to 8 the number of Mythics available ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 1:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262/157 "2017-11-28T01:31:05Z")
This change basically makes it so a given mythic (that didnā€™t appear the week before) has the same chance to appear in soulforge as when soulforge first landed (since there are now four more mythics in the pool than when soulforge was introduced, and next week four less mythics can be rolled). I hope this demonstrates why this implementation was never scaleable in the first place, and why _any_ kind of rotation system, even one that doesnā€™t repeat, is going to suffer from a similar problem. Good to know more changes are coming, though. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262/158 "2017-11-28T01:43:28Z")
Yes, exactly. This buys exactly 4 months of catchup as a new solution is created, but in itself it provides very little. Still, itā€™s better than nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Cindy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/cindy/32/19323_2.png) [@Cindy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cindy)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 2:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262/159 "2017-11-28T02:26:59Z")
Nimhain said ā€œnext yearā€. That is only about five weeks away. ---
**Author:** ![outlander](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/outlander/32/21087_2.png) [@outlander](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/outlander)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 2:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262/160 "2017-11-28T02:34:26Z")
I know people are talking about Pharos Ra a lot. SO, I have a question that how many do we want this special mythic troop? Just my curiosity ? šŸ¤” (Got one when itā€™s released, but never had a chance to use him. ) ---
**Author:** ![Papa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/papa/32/26282_2.png) [@Papa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Papa)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 3:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262/161 "2017-11-28T03:16:14Z")
Pharos Ra is the best troop in the game for earning souls and levelling troops. This helps with kingdom stars and general progression. Iā€™ve been playing the game for a couple of years and still need over 700,000 souls to level everything. ---
**Author:** ![WishKiller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wishkiller/32/36914_2.png) [@WishKiller](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WishKiller)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 5:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262/162 "2017-11-28T05:24:21Z")
What is going on here? I have had TWO posts deleted in the last 8 hours. ---
**Author:** ![Lardy-Porker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lardy-porker/32/25588_2.png) [@Lardy-Porker](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lardy-Porker)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 5:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262/163 "2017-11-28T05:51:47Z")
Thank you! Thatā€™s a nice resource. It seems the RNG really loves the 4 horsemen! ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 5:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262/164 "2017-11-28T05:52:49Z")
Depending on content, they may have been judged to violate the community guidelines. (And thus been removed by a moderator or admin.) Didnā€™t see the posts myself, so I am just speculating. Could also be a Discourse issue, but that would be affecting more people than just you. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262.md?page=7) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pharos-ra-support-group-all-welcome/33262.md?page=9)