# PC GW Opponents MUCH Harder than Mobile GW Opponents? **URL:** \ **Category:** Support\ **Created:** [July 1, 2017, 3:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739 "2017-07-01T03:46:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![NowayJoe2Go](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nowayjoe2go/32/14045_2.png) [@NowayJoe2Go](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NowayJoe2Go)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739/22 "2017-07-03T03:24:01Z")
@Saltypatra The photos I posted in the original bug report are for Guild Wars only. They show that when I play Guild Wars on PC, my Opponents are much stronger than Mobile. IE, I am at a major disadvantage whenever I play GW on PC! NowayJoe2Go ---
**Author:** ![NowayJoe2Go](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nowayjoe2go/32/14045_2.png) [@NowayJoe2Go](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NowayJoe2Go)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 3:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739/23 "2017-07-03T03:26:29Z")
That’s a great thought @Ozball . I still have a few GW battles left today. I will grab PC vs. Mobile shots of both Orcs and non-Orcs and post here later tonight. Unless someone else beats me to it… 😃 NowayJoe2Go ---
**Author:** ![Macawi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/macawi/32/21289_2.png) [@Macawi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Macawi)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 3:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739/24 "2017-07-03T03:27:30Z")
> [@Ozball](#): > > Looks like it’s tied to event bonuses: It’s tied to more than just event bonuses. I took screenshots a few days ago of an non-event troop of one of my GW opponents. PC version: ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/e/2e9c5576f58c3c5c7fcaf3a0d385e43a2a65ff94.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/5/357eeb1cc5e248c92a4aff89d9d8dfef589d19dc.png) Mobile version: ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/b/0bf4f49f0672f568800e4401bccdc01a199ebe75.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/4/6450d669090a8e14837ab90117e18a755bb8f255.png) PC Sentinel version: ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/7/97174f57524f01368d99320a03f2bd561c5de7de.png) Mobile Sentinel version: [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308355234265169923/330550555191672842/image.png(image larger than 4 MB)](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308355234265169923/330550555191672842/image.png) Although there is a small difference between Sentinel bonuses it certainly doesn’t answer the question as to why the same troop, same opponent has a difference of 16 armor,12 health, 7 attack and 5 spell damage between the two platforms. ---
**Author:** ![Macawi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/macawi/32/21289_2.png) [@Macawi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Macawi)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 3:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739/25 "2017-07-03T03:28:05Z")
> [@NowayJoe2Go](#): > > Unless someone else beats me to it… 😃 I was in the middle of doing just that when you made your post. ---
**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 3:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739/26 "2017-07-03T03:30:19Z")
> [@Macawi](#): > > It’s tied to more than just event bonuses. I took screenshots a few days ago of an non-event troop of one of my GW opponents. Fair enough, which means it’s tied to event troops outside of GW and there might be another issue affecting GW compounding the difference (hence why @DEMONorANGEL observed a smaller difference outside of GW than in). Maybe something tied to sentinel scaling? ---
**Author:** ![NowayJoe2Go](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nowayjoe2go/32/14045_2.png) [@NowayJoe2Go](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NowayJoe2Go)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 3:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739/27 "2017-07-03T03:31:05Z")
**Fantastic!!! Thank you** @Macawi ! 🏆🏆🏆 NowayJoe2Go ---
**Author:** ![Macawi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/macawi/32/21289_2.png) [@Macawi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Macawi)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 3:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739/28 "2017-07-03T03:31:26Z")
> [@Ozball](#): > > Maybe something tied to sentinel scaling? That could be the issue, but I really can’t say for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 3:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739/29 "2017-07-03T03:38:34Z")
What GW rank are you? I just ranked up my sentinels to level 5 to test (or at least Attack and Magic) and I still have the +5 for both… ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/c/bccd752cf1fd3079d584c3a1a04e5f2b7f03850a.jpg) (this is on PC) Mobile ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/0/60d5205e39d4a32a4df6e7a4df602d3aca1a4261.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![NowayJoe2Go](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nowayjoe2go/32/14045_2.png) [@NowayJoe2Go](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NowayJoe2Go)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739/30 "2017-07-03T03:44:13Z")
I’m Vanguard rank in my Guild this week. We are in Bracket 1 for Guild Wars. I leveled all my Sentinels to +5, yet I see different numbers for PC vs. Mobile. I’m not sure why? I think to @Macawi 's point, the bigger issue is how MUCH greater the PC Opponent’s Attack, Magic, Health, and Armor stats are on PC vs. Mobile in Guild Wars. A few sentinel bonuses for the Player do not compensate at all. **PC Sentinels:** ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/7/97174f57524f01368d99320a03f2bd561c5de7de.png) **Mobile Sentinels:** ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/d/b/dbcdaf6e39cd6a5fa254638474faadc546c8f989.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 3:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739/31 "2017-07-03T03:47:22Z")
While it might not be just the sentinels, the fact that they also have discrepancies could be part of the issue. eg a multiplicative error that only makes a small difference to sentinels, but a much larger one to troop stats. I’m only a Solider in my guild, so I’m wondering if higher ranks are getting a bug where their sentinels are higher or something? Would like @Macawi’s rank as well to cross check (and anyone else who can chip in) Ozball - Solider - GW Bracket 3 - Attack 5/Magic 5 on both NowayJoe2Go - Vanguard - GW Bracket 1 - Attack6/Magic7 PC - Attack5/Magic5 Mobile Macawi - TBA - TBA - Attack6/Magic7 PC - Attack5/Magic5 Mobile ---
**Author:** ![Hoop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hoop/32/34118_2.png) [@Hoop](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hoop)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 5:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739/32 "2017-07-03T05:38:55Z")
Ill check again after reset, but i know my sentinels are different also. Magic is 7 on PC, 5 on Mobile. Not sure others, just know they dont match ---
**Author:** ![Macawi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/macawi/32/21289_2.png) [@Macawi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Macawi)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 2:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739/33 "2017-07-03T14:58:23Z")
I’m a Soldier this week @Ozball and my Sentinels are like yours, the same for both pc and mobile. ---
**Author:** ![NowayJoe2Go](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nowayjoe2go/32/14045_2.png) [@NowayJoe2Go](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NowayJoe2Go)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 3:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739/34 "2017-07-03T15:21:56Z")
Let’s stay focused on the fact that **PC GW Players are at a significant disadvantage compared to Mobile and both are on the same Platform.** If this issue were Xbox or PS4, the impact would be near zero @ozball @macawi @saltypatra So, my Guild Wars Sentinel bonuses do not match again this week! My GW Rank this week is Herald (1 higher than last week, if that matters). **Again, the issue is: Guild Wars Opponents are much tougher on PC than Mobile in comparison to the Player** **PC Sentinels are higher again, but GW Opponents will be boosted MUCH, MUCH STRONGER, again?** ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/8/38c684dbfcbbba11da7a96a89a28fac8b3c1181d.png) **Mobile shows lower Sentinel bonuses, but GW Opponents are MUCH, MUCH WEAKER again?** ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/9/79ac4e61aa86d8cefac6de2320cfa83d4e1e3bcb.jpg) NowayJoe2Go ---
**Author:** ![NowayJoe2Go](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nowayjoe2go/32/14045_2.png) [@NowayJoe2Go](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NowayJoe2Go)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 4:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739/35 "2017-07-04T16:13:04Z")
I see another Server patch last night? Is this to fix this issue? NowayJoe2Go ---
**Author:** ![NowayJoe2Go](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nowayjoe2go/32/14045_2.png) [@NowayJoe2Go](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NowayJoe2Go)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 5:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739/36 "2017-07-04T17:07:36Z")
OK, so PC Guild Wars is still much harder! My first GW Opponent’s Famine has **+2 Attack, +7 health, +3 armor, +2 magic higher Stats on PC vs Mobile.** **PC GW Opponent 1 Famine:** ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/4/c4129224c9be5f8a7182f85728e3af555c633107.jpg) **Mobile GW Opponent 1 Famine:** ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/3/03eabb15b6b72e1cc2356738021501914dfd986e.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![NowayJoe2Go](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nowayjoe2go/32/14045_2.png) [@NowayJoe2Go](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NowayJoe2Go)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 1:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739/37 "2017-07-05T13:34:45Z")
@Sirrian @nimhain @Ozzie40361 @Saltypatra This is a serious bug since PC and Mobile are on the Same Guild Wars. Any updates on this issue? NowayJoe2Go ---
**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 1:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739/38 "2017-07-05T13:52:27Z")
Not sure if you were meaning to tag me in that or someone else. I haven’t heard anything, but then again I’m not a dev either, so any official remarks will be coming from sources other than me. ---
**Author:** ![daveis23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@daveis23](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/daveis23)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739/39 "2017-07-05T16:53:31Z")
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**Author:** ![daveis23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@daveis23](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/daveis23)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739/40 "2017-07-05T16:54:16Z")
First is mobile second is PC. What is going on? This is rediculious! ---
**Author:** ![NowayJoe2Go](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nowayjoe2go/32/14045_2.png) [@NowayJoe2Go](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NowayJoe2Go)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739/41 "2017-07-05T17:38:17Z")
Yup @daveis23 Unfortunately, the magnitude of the discrepancy appears as bad as this time last week! HUGE disadvantage for PC GW Players vs. Mobile GW Players. NowayJoe2Go [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pc-gw-opponents-much-harder-than-mobile-gw-opponents/26739.md?page=3)