# Orb of Wisdom useless for end game players **URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/orb-of-wisdom-useless-for-end-game-players/71529 **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback **Created:** [August 18, 2021, 11:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/orb-of-wisdom-useless-for-end-game-players/71529 "2021-08-18T11:36:14Z") **Posts on this page:** 9 **Page:** 1
### Author: ![Ronn271](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Ronn271](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ronn271) #### Post date: [August 18, 2021, 11:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/orb-of-wisdom-useless-for-end-game-players/71529/1 "2021-08-18T11:36:14Z")
As end game player I have no use for orbs of wisdom, it would be nice we can turn our orbs into something, like orbs of grow - I can make delve crowns of them ---
### Author: ![igniteice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/igniteice/32/67904_2.png) [@igniteice](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/igniteice) #### Post date: [August 18, 2021, 1:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/orb-of-wisdom-useless-for-end-game-players/71529/2 "2021-08-18T13:56:51Z")
If you’re an end gamer, you wouldn’t need King’s Crown. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/7/87f10973dd92c508082b9d1b5f41675bc2343fca.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/d/9/d93562bc94feb565b0fd98804c00ffb8ea6caa2f.jpeg) ---
### Author: ![Snooj](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/snooj/32/65852_2.png) [@Snooj](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Snooj) #### Post date: [August 18, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/orb-of-wisdom-useless-for-end-game-players/71529/3 "2021-08-18T14:02:44Z")
I would love to convert orbs to others, even if it takes a large number. 10 Major Orbs of Wisdom + 10 Major Orbs of Growth = 1 Minor Orb of Ascension for example. That way, even though orb rewards are RNG, you’re still technically one step closer to a useful reward. ---
### Author: ![rbchaffe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rbchaffe/32/58281_2.png) [@rbchaffe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/rbchaffe) #### Post date: [August 18, 2021, 2:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/orb-of-wisdom-useless-for-end-game-players/71529/4 "2021-08-18T14:30:30Z")
I am hoping they have started a trend in the soul forge. Major orbs of wisdom are needed to craft Skroll Reborn. I would like to see more characters like that in the forge. Who knows, the next one may require orbs of growth. ---
### Author: ![ctenn2ls](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ctenn2ls/32/69996_2.png) [@ctenn2ls](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ctenn2ls) #### Post date: [August 18, 2021, 2:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/orb-of-wisdom-useless-for-end-game-players/71529/5 "2021-08-18T14:32:47Z")
This was my exact thought. That was a really welcome addition to the Soulforge, and allowed players to use up some of their resources that otherwise would sit fallow. I really hope they continue to get creative with both orbs and ingots (how they handled crafting Leonis Tower) to make them somewhat relevant for mid-late game players. ---
### Author: ![Ronn271](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Ronn271](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ronn271) #### Post date: [August 19, 2021, 8:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/orb-of-wisdom-useless-for-end-game-players/71529/6 "2021-08-19T08:06:08Z")
but I do I miss 3 unit cards, and 5x pure500, so? ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/4/f4b88cccf1ebfa506042ac958146964f10e0bcfa.png) ---
### Author: ![Badger613](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/badger613/32/70326_2.png) [@Badger613](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Badger613) #### Post date: [August 19, 2021, 10:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/orb-of-wisdom-useless-for-end-game-players/71529/7 "2021-08-19T10:18:07Z")
The one resource I love to trade is treasure maps I have tens of thousands and don’t enjoy playing the event ! Trade or convert would be my suggestion ---
### Author: ![CaptainAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/captainawesome/32/74890_2.png) [@CaptainAwesome](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CaptainAwesome) #### Post date: [August 19, 2021, 10:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/orb-of-wisdom-useless-for-end-game-players/71529/8 "2021-08-19T10:52:59Z")
You can trade maps for gems and glory 1 map = 1-5 Gems and 5-20 glory Just go for the green and brown chests. Speedrun it and don´t go for higher chests or even vaults (2 minutes per run) ---
### Author: ![ESR77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@ESR77](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ESR77) #### Post date: [August 21, 2021, 3:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/orb-of-wisdom-useless-for-end-game-players/71529/9 "2021-08-21T15:38:40Z")
> [@Snooj](#): > > I would love to convert orbs to others, even if it takes a large number. I was thinking a re-roll option to craft them back into a chaos orb might be fun. Like 10 major growth plus a thousand souls gets you a major chaos orb, something along those lines. You might just end up with 1 of them again, but at least you get another chance at the good rewards, which is what we all chase in the events. I’d rather see the treasures have the 10:1 forge up option like the ingots do, as someone suggested in another thread, rather than using orbs to craft them.