# Opponent not receiving the PvP loss **URL:** \ **Category:** Support\ **Created:** [June 12, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/opponent-not-receiving-the-pvp-loss/25521 "2017-06-12T20:59:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tranimo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@Tranimo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tranimo)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/opponent-not-receiving-the-pvp-loss/25521/1 "2017-06-12T20:59:07Z")
**What you were expecting to happen, and what actually happened?** I defeated an opponent. As that person is in a competing guild, I went to take a look at his statistics. I took a Steam screenshot, which is date/time stamped. At 2:19 pm (immediately after the loss), he is showing 822 PvP points, 58 defense wins, 0 defense losses. At 2:28 pm, he is showing 834 PvP points, 61 defense wins, 0 defense losses. At 3:49 pm, he is showing 873 PvP points, 72 defense wins, 0 defense losses. **What are the steps to make it happen again?** Defeat someone in PvP; grab a screenshot. Go back to that battle log one hour later to see if that PvP defense loss is properly recorded. **Do you have any screenshots or video you want to share with us so we can see the problem? Attach them to your post!** I have attached the relevant screenshots. As this is a player that, to my knowledge, is a clean player, I’d rather not call him out by name here on the public forums. If @Saltypatra or another one of the Developers want to contact me, I can give the un-edited screenshots. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/a/0af45ea416b2816d1fcf37d196fce907d5688ea8.jpg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/3/c3d832fb92093c988bea344943b4d340564a63a2.jpg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/b/2b515d91d591016819af226062c27d875b3537d5.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Tranimo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@Tranimo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tranimo)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/opponent-not-receiving-the-pvp-loss/25521/2 "2017-06-12T21:01:43Z")
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**Author:** ![ZooKeeper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zookeeper/32/30875_2.png) [@ZooKeeper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZooKeeper)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 11:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/opponent-not-receiving-the-pvp-loss/25521/3 "2017-06-12T23:01:03Z")
That looks like me. I’ve been doing casual to finish gathering snotstones, which I’m done. This is exactly why they need to fix this stupid bug related with casual PvP. This kind of post make some players uncomfortable doing one of game feature, casual PvP which is more relaxing and cheap to refresh opponent list. I’ve wrote my concern regarding this bug here: > [@The Issue Regarding Losing PvP Score to Gain Extra Defense Wins](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-issue-regarding-losing-pvp-score-to-gain-extra-defense-wins/24859/11): > > Glad to hear that finally it got addressed. Thanks for that. While we’re at it, also please check the [+1 defense victory bug](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/strange-1-defense-wins/20076) caused by doing casual PvP. Those defense victory is looks very similar with this defense bug. I personally would love to do casual sometimes as it’s cheap to refresh. It also good source to farm snotstones during event or as a place when I want to test a new team with higher stats opponent. I just can’t imagine how people would react when they saw my name show up on thei… > [@The Issue Regarding Losing PvP Score to Gain Extra Defense Wins](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-issue-regarding-losing-pvp-score-to-gain-extra-defense-wins/24859/15): > > If I do casual PvP, without touching ranked PvP at all after reset, I’ll get stats like that. And not everyone here aware about this bug, so when they see someone with stats like 150-0 on defense, they would think that person is abusing defensive bug since it looks similar. That’s why I’ve always stay away from casual PvP even though I want to do it. That’s exactly what I was trying to point out. They should fix it so it won’t raise any stupid suspicion and accusation when someone doing casual… What strange is, I didn’t even attacked you. I just refresh till I get team with 4 giants with 5k or below points. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 11:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/opponent-not-receiving-the-pvp-loss/25521/4 "2017-06-12T23:38:39Z")
I’m here for the hilarious censorship of the avatar’s face. “HI YES HELLO I AM SQUARE HEAD WITH BOOBS.” ---
**Author:** ![ZooKeeper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zookeeper/32/30875_2.png) [@ZooKeeper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZooKeeper)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 11:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/opponent-not-receiving-the-pvp-loss/25521/5 "2017-06-12T23:42:03Z")
In my country, the boobs part will get censored. ---
**Author:** ![Tranimo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@Tranimo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tranimo)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 4:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/opponent-not-receiving-the-pvp-loss/25521/6 "2017-06-13T04:12:08Z")
I didn’t want to name names, @ZooKeeper, hence my blanking out what I did. I just find it odd that the game did not record the loss for 90+ minutes. – Tranimo ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 8:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/opponent-not-receiving-the-pvp-loss/25521/7 "2017-06-13T08:45:09Z")
its something else then the casual since the OP was attacking you (or someone else), he was attacking - not being attacked ---
**Author:** ![ZooKeeper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zookeeper/32/30875_2.png) [@ZooKeeper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZooKeeper)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 9:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/opponent-not-receiving-the-pvp-loss/25521/8 "2017-06-13T09:31:25Z")
He attacked me just so he can check my stats. > [@Tranimo](#): > > I defeated an opponent. As that person is in a competing guild, I went to take a look at his statistics. It’s still that stupid bug with casual PvP. ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 11:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/opponent-not-receiving-the-pvp-loss/25521/9 "2017-06-13T11:43:34Z")
but he meant that its his attack that is missing in your defense? unless he attacked at casual then his attack should be saved on your defense regardless how many casuals you do, right? im not talking about your defense win score, (unless i misunderstood the op completely) ---
**Author:** ![ZooKeeper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zookeeper/32/30875_2.png) [@ZooKeeper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZooKeeper)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/opponent-not-receiving-the-pvp-loss/25521/10 "2017-06-13T13:17:29Z")
> [@Annaerith](#): > > but he meant that its his attack that is missing in your defense? That’s the thing with casual PvP. If someone do casual without touching ranked PvP, they won’t get PvP loss when someone invade them until they play ranked. Hence stats like 50-0 or 100-0 on defense. But once they play ranked, they will then receive loss like normally if someone defeat them. ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 1:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/opponent-not-receiving-the-pvp-loss/25521/11 "2017-06-13T13:19:35Z")
doesnt that mean if you do one ranked battle before all the casuals you wouldnt get bugged? ---
**Author:** ![ZooKeeper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zookeeper/32/30875_2.png) [@ZooKeeper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZooKeeper)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 1:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/opponent-not-receiving-the-pvp-loss/25521/12 "2017-06-13T13:21:08Z")
Maybe. I don’t know. If you wanna try, do it next reset.