# Number of tiers changed?

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-of-tiers-changed/8122>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\
**Created:** [June 7, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-of-tiers-changed/8122 "2016-06-07T19:06:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Baldred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/baldred/32/2873_2.png) [@Baldred](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Baldred)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-of-tiers-changed/8122/1 "2016-06-07T19:06:23Z")

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When did the numbers of PVP tiers change from 20 back to 15? I’ve searched the forum for an announcement but - unless my search-fu is waning - I couldn’t find anything.

Confused.

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**Author:** ![Dorgath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Dorgath](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dorgath)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-of-tiers-changed/8122/2 "2016-06-07T19:40:30Z")

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PvP Tiers have always been at 15 as far as I know, at least when I started at v1.5.

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**Author:** ![Baldred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/baldred/32/2873_2.png) [@Baldred](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Baldred)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-of-tiers-changed/8122/3 "2016-06-07T20:18:51Z")

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Am I having a senior moment? I was sure tiers went briefly to 20 when 2.0 came out.

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**Author:** ![GemsCollector](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b4bc9f/32.png) [@GemsCollector](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GemsCollector)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-of-tiers-changed/8122/4 "2016-06-07T20:25:55Z")

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In the release notes (I think, maybe it was in a preview) @Sirrian mentioned something like “reaching tier 5 in new PvP will be roughly as difficult as reaching rank 1 in old PvP (in 1.0.9)” - maybe that confused you. But it wasn’t about adding tiers, it was about them being slightly more difficult to obtain.

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**Author:** ![Baldred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/baldred/32/2873_2.png) [@Baldred](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Baldred)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-of-tiers-changed/8122/5 "2016-06-07T21:27:44Z")

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OK that makes sense. Think that must be what I was remembering.

Thanks guys.