# Number and type of traitstones needed to upgrade all traits

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\
**Created:** [September 20, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694 "2016-09-20T18:27:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/21 "2016-09-20T19:13:44Z")

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Might have to do with either (a) the troops you deem “valuable” for traiting, relative to the total; or (b) the discrepancy between troops released on Console vs. PC; or (c) your home kingdom and those of the teams you invade.

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**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/22 "2016-09-20T19:15:09Z")

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Its that low? Those 2,200 gold keys each week for a year sounds good now

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**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/23 "2016-09-20T19:17:17Z")

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> [@Lyya](#):
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> Might have to do with either (a) the troops you deem “valuable” for traiting, relative to the total; or (b) the discrepancy between troops released on Console vs. PC; or (c) your home kingdom and those of the teams you invade.

(a) I Trait everything I can. Currently I have over 80% of all Traits and I have every non-Arcane Trait

(b) This must be it

(c) Traitstones drop randomly in Console PvP

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**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/24 "2016-09-20T19:19:18Z")

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Looking at the yellow and red traitstones Rasper still requires it seems home kingdom hasnt had much of an impact…

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