# Number and type of traitstones needed to upgrade all traits **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [September 20, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694 "2016-09-20T18:27:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ZIGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19adc/32.png) [@ZIGS](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZIGS)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/1 "2016-09-20T18:27:28Z")
Where can I find out how many and what type of traitstones I need to fully upgrade a troop (all rarities, including the Guardians)? I’m sure someone already posted this somewhere but I didn’t keep the link. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Legato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/legato/32/2135_2.png) [@Legato](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Legato)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/2 "2016-09-20T18:29:04Z")
> [@fire Troop List per Arcane Stone (Ended: 16.07.18, Reason: Lack of interests)](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/list-of-troops-per-arcane-stone-guardians-mythics-classes/3988): > > TYPE - Color(Total) - Where to farm BEAST - Red/Green(302) - Wild Plains Barbearius E 12 Chimera 3 Dark Maiden 2 Desdaemona E 12 Dragon Cruncher E 12 Dragon Turtle 3 Fey Cap 2 Gloom Leaf L 16 Gnoll 2 Hellhound 2 Hobgoblin 3 Ironbark E 12 Ketras the Bull M 21 Kruarg the Dread L 16 Marilith E 12 Minogor 3 Orc Veteran 3 Pride Guard E 12 Prince Ethoras E 12 Salamander E 12 Scarlett E 12 Suna M 21 Sylvasi E 12 The Worldbreaker M 21 Urska Wanderer 3 Vargouille 3 … ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/3 "2016-09-20T18:31:51Z")
> [@Gems of War Database - updated troops list and much more!](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-troops-list/6037): > > Hi everyone, I’ve created a webpage that can be used to browse and search for all the troops, classes, weapons, kingdoms in Gems of War, along with many other features. It is called the “Gems of War Database” and can be found here: ~~[http://ashtender.com/gems~~](http://ashtender.com/gems~~) Troop List The troop list can be found here:~~[http://ashtender.com/gems/troops~~](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops~~) In addition to what the official Troop List supports, the replacement list has: Up-to-date stats information for all stats to level 20 Ascension … For me, @Lyya’s database is the go-to resource for any questions like this. You can click on the trait for any troop and it will tell you how many of each traitstone you will need. Direct link here: [Troops - Gems of War Database](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops) ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/4 "2016-09-20T18:34:16Z")
@Lyya Liking every plug for her site… ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/f/f2e427d229c4d75e26fd429d50a0b3c97b2addd7.gif) ---
**Author:** ![ZIGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19adc/32.png) [@ZIGS](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZIGS)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/5 "2016-09-20T18:35:36Z")
Thanks guys ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/6 "2016-09-20T18:35:42Z")
What is even happening in that image? ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/7 "2016-09-20T18:37:02Z")
> [@Lyya](#): > > What is even happening in that image? When you hit the mark, to the extreme! (Like your site 🙂 ) ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/8 "2016-09-20T18:39:52Z")
Easiest way to pad my “like” total! ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/9 "2016-09-20T18:40:29Z")
Sounds like the site should be updated to include totals for the required stones and souls categorised by kingdom, troop type and overall. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/10 "2016-09-20T18:45:04Z")
I could, but the ToDo Monitor by @turintuor is a better tool for tracking how much stuff you need to level a kingdom, instead of a single troop: > [@GoW: ToDo Monitor](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gow-todo-monitor/5087): > > Hi all, I create an application to have an overview of my progress. Most of us should have a spreasheet to do that but this solution is quite limited and can be slow if you put some crazy formula. This application is for PC only, I cannot do any version for iOS or Android. It is based on your progress so you will need to enter all your data the first time only (you can save wink ). So what you can do with it (for one kingdom or all kingdoms): know the souls required to level up all your … ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/11 "2016-09-20T18:48:51Z")
Thats PC only. All the cool kids are on console or mobile ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/12 "2016-09-20T18:51:18Z")
Still, the best my site could do is show you that you need, for argument’s sake, 350 minor red traitstones to finish a kingdom from scratch, at which point the next question would logically be, "Yes, but how many from where I’m at _now?"_ Which is the question you really want the answer to, one my stateless website can’t provide. ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/13 "2016-09-20T18:55:30Z")
This is a tough problem to solve on console. I built a spreadsheet to calculate my kingdom power levels, but I have to manually update it each time I gain a troop, level up or forge a trait (at worst, it takes me 5 minutes to cycle through the kingdoms and update anything I missed). To manually do something troop by troop would be more work than it could possibly be worth. I just realized that my spreadsheet is going to need a major overhaul as soon as we get more than 10 troops in any kingdom. I might need some new Excel kung-fu… ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 7:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/14 "2016-09-20T19:02:35Z")
Just for giggles: Minors Blue - 2202 Green - 2598 Red - 3402 Yellow - 2172 Purple - 2778 Brown - 2364 Majors Blue - 674 Green - 782 Red - 842 Yellow - 614 Purple - 728 Brown - 744 Relics Blue - 596 Green - 560 Red - 640 Yellow - 546 Purple - 592 Brown - 568 Arcanes - 2150 Celestials - 180 ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/15 "2016-09-20T19:06:30Z")
> [@Rasper](#): > > Red - 3402 /cry ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/16 "2016-09-20T19:07:50Z")
Whats the drop rate for minors in gold chests? ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/17 "2016-09-20T19:08:08Z")
Which is why I need 62 yellows to have enough to finish all troops, but need 1449 more reds. ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/18 "2016-09-20T19:10:30Z")
> [@Robert](#): > > Whats the drop rate for minors in gold chests? 50% common troop 17% rare troop 19% minor stone 7% major stone 7% other From roughly 11,000 gold chests ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/19 "2016-09-20T19:10:34Z")
> [@Robert](#): > > Whats the drop rate for minors in gold chests? 30% for Traitstones in all chests I believe EDIT: sniped by @Rasper ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694/20 "2016-09-20T19:11:53Z")
Weird, you need more Minor Purples than Greens yet I’m always low on Greens and full of Purples [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/number-and-type-of-traitstones-needed-to-upgrade-all-traits/12694.md?page=2)