# Not bad for the first turn **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [October 8, 2016, 12:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424 "2016-10-08T00:36:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![utfanx2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/utfanx2/32/525_2.png) [@utfanx2](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/utfanx2)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 12:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424/1 "2016-10-08T00:36:39Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/7/755bd90cfd06e0d0c6bb050c0bbd85ab8d9e6c60.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/7/78ce25bed857b5a110936d9906ca354a81ade869.png) Mercy filled Humility, and buffed its life. Humility filled itself and Hero, while magic buffing both Hero and Terraxis. Finally, Hero did 39 damage to all, and devoured the enemy Queen Mab. As for the second turn, Humility filled Hero again for the win. The funniest part is I am using a level 1 Warlord with Black Manacles. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 1:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424/2 "2016-10-08T01:08:47Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/e/e380314fc96e2ed25aa6cc007e976c233e9c6655.gif) ---
**Author:** ![mraider94](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mraider94/32/21939_2.png) [@mraider94](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mraider94)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 3:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424/3 "2016-10-08T03:38:03Z")
Mercy needs to go die in a fire, or at least lose empowered. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 3:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424/4 "2016-10-08T03:51:38Z")
> [@mraider94](#): > > Mercy needs to go die in a fire, or at least lose empowered. They essentially made Spirit Fox to counter Mercy, so depowering her would devalue a Troop like Spirit Fox and other counters. I’d wager that Empowered Mercy is here to stay ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 4:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424/5 "2016-10-08T04:17:01Z")
I still think the first turn thing is a huge deal. Just throw in a coin toss or something! 50% chance for Mercy to get instantly owned by Manticore/Spirit Fox and your carefully crafted (or copied from thousands of others?) strategy goes to hell. Either that or the AI is dumb and matches gems instead of hitting Mercy. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 4:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424/6 "2016-10-08T04:19:39Z")
> [@Shimrra](#): > > Either that or the AI is dumb and matches gems instead of hitting Mercy. That’s a Console thing, the PC AI will fire Mercy if it’s possible. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 4:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424/7 "2016-10-08T04:22:02Z")
Speaking as a permanent PC player I can safely say that isn’t the case. Do you even play on PC? ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424/8 "2016-10-08T04:25:00Z")
I’ve played it yes. You’re saying if Mercy has a transform available, she will skip it occasionally? ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 4:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424/9 "2016-10-08T04:28:55Z")
ai mercy to me: -do the 4+ Matches -do the skulls -if they arent any purple there is a chance she will not cast -then she casts if its still the ai’s turn (might forgot something, dont rage on me if i did please) ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 4:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424/10 "2016-10-08T04:30:57Z")
> [@Annaerith](#): > > ai mercy to me: > -do the 4+ Matches > -do the skulls > -if they arent any purple there is a chance she will not cast > -then she casts if its still the ai’s turn > > (might forgot something, dont rage on me if i did please) This is was I meant by “if possible”, I’m well aware of the “script” the AI has ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 4:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424/11 "2016-10-08T04:31:01Z")
> [@TaliaParks](#): > > You’re saying if Mercy has a transform available, she will skip it occasionally? Not even _occasionally_. I’ve seen her ignore _extra turns_ in favor of matching totally random gems, or matching _those_ gems and defusing the combo instead of taking it. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 4:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424/12 "2016-10-08T04:33:54Z")
> [@Shimrra](#): > > Not even _occasionally_. I’ve seen her ignore _extra turns_ in favor of matching totally random gems, or matching _those_ gems and defusing the combo instead of taking it. That’s odd. I see that all the time on Console. When I play on my wife’s account, the AI is near flawless and ruthless. But, I have only done 100 or so battles on PC, so I have to trust your experience over mine. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 4:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424/13 "2016-10-08T04:41:10Z")
I can back up @Shimrra’s claim. Mercy on PC/Mobile makes…questionable choices about when to use her spell. > [@TIL NEVER use Aziris on defense](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/til-never-use-aziris-on-defense/8091/9): > > Sometimes I think enemy Mercy is trying to cure her own brain damage. ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 4:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424/14 "2016-10-08T04:54:38Z")
@Shimrra’s point was that if the AI had the first turn, with an empowered mana drain troop, they would probably not have the sense to target Mercy and would match gems instead. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 4:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424/15 "2016-10-08T04:58:04Z")
Potentially, yes. I still think a 50/50 would be good to level the playing field a little bit, although this would inevitably see a surge in _freaking Mercy_ since its easily the most impactful Empowered troop … ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 5:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424/16 "2016-10-08T05:01:24Z")
just on the side note: please dont request mercy to be nerfed, she is my QOL improvement on offense when used :s the time saver… ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 5:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424/17 "2016-10-08T05:55:22Z")
> [@Annaerith](#): > > just on the side note: please dont request mercy to be nerfed, she is my QOL improvement on offense when used :s the time saver… When she works. How much time does she save when you can’t use her all match and she basically makes it a 3vs4? Because that’s 2/3 of the time. Oh wait, everyone uses her with Valkyrie and a double-Yellow Banner… ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 6:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424/18 "2016-10-08T06:00:02Z")
i get a feeling she hastens the game in 2 out of 3 games so it works out for me. (but thats just me, you can find tones of ppl who will say the rng is most of times against them so they would toss mercy aside) i use her with 2xbat valk and leonis banner atm 🙂 and the odds that she can stay useless make her balanced enough imo. i mean she doesnt rly need a nerf? ppl can dislike her but she isnt overpowered tbh i would like a few more of empowered or fast mana creators OR some option to haste/toggle off the animations, my time is precious _please_… ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 6:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424/19 "2016-10-08T06:04:40Z")
They created Spirit Fox to counter her, she won’t be nerfed any time soon. I find her more useful with smaller Mana pools, like Valkyrie’s 10. You don’t need a great board, a couple 3-matches and you’re set. ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 6:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424/20 "2016-10-08T06:06:19Z")
just one 5+ match and valk is all ready =) also another fun deck is: maw ik valk mercy +2yellow (loops well enough and you get the souls) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-bad-for-the-first-turn/13424.md?page=2)