# (Not a bug) Orc armor triggers too much **URL:** \ **Category:** Bug Reports\ **Created:** [December 23, 2018, 11:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-orc-armor-triggers-too-much/50266 "2018-12-23T11:07:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Smiling\_Spectre1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/smiling_spectre1/32/7204_2.png) [@Smiling\_Spectre1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Smiling_Spectre1)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 11:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-orc-armor-triggers-too-much/50266/1 "2018-12-23T11:07:10Z")
**Platform, device version and operating system:** Windows X64 **Screenshot or image:** ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/a/aabe57a39b3c7cb1f5648768f482b518495e7b73.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/4/a40f2dbae865085044f5a954d615785534d11b72.jpeg) **What you were expecting to happen, and what actually happened:** All effects with two-phase damage triggers twice for orcs. On screen I hit with mang that 1. Remove armor, 2. Damage for 20. So with third orc (40 armor, 49 life) I expect 29 life and 5 armor. In reality I remove armor, and Orc Armor triggered. THEN I hit for 20 (leave orc with 34, obviously), and armor triggers again! **How often does this happen? When did it begin happening?** Always. **Steps to make it happen again** 1. Get any unit with 2-phase damage. 2. Attack orc. 3. Observe 5 life/armor more than expected. ---
**Author:** ![AmberPeacemaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amberpeacemaker/32/50926_2.png) [@AmberPeacemaker](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AmberPeacemaker)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-orc-armor-triggers-too-much/50266/2 "2018-12-23T21:06:56Z")
IIRC, that is because removing armour counts as damage, triggering Orc Armour. Then the actual damage triggers the second Orc Armour. Methinks this maybe a “working by design, but not intention” type of bug. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-orc-armor-triggers-too-much/50266/3 "2018-12-24T02:08:38Z")
Mm - it’s also inconsistent, though, I think, with regards to barriers (where it doesn’t count as damage). ---
**Author:** ![Cyrup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/cyrup/32/50181_2.png) [@Cyrup](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cyrup)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 2:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-orc-armor-triggers-too-much/50266/4 "2018-12-24T02:29:15Z")
There are some similar reports on this before [here](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-orc-armor-triggering-without-damage-dealt/48752) and [here](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/how-did-he-live-mang-vs-orc-armor/45417) In this scenario, removal of armor counts as taking damage, so the trait **Orc Armor** is triggered. ---
**Author:** ![Smiling\_Spectre1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/smiling_spectre1/32/7204_2.png) [@Smiling\_Spectre1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Smiling_Spectre1)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 5:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-orc-armor-triggers-too-much/50266/5 "2018-12-24T05:07:00Z")
> [@Cyrup](#): > > In this scenario, removal of armor counts as taking damage, so the trait **Orc Armor** is triggered. Actually, I am struggling only about idea “triggered _twice_”. Looks wrong for me. _shrugs_ Ah, well. Meanwhile, as I noticed, in “blast” scenario all removed stones counts as one damage source. It would be funny if they was separate (as intuitively must be) - then Orc Armor would be great way to counter them. Loud thinking. 🙂