# \[Not a bug\] Horned Hag can summon Horned Hag

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-horned-hag-can-summon-horned-hag/77882>\
**Category:** Bug Reports\
**Created:** [November 17, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-horned-hag-can-summon-horned-hag/77882 "2022-11-17T19:04:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![beeflog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beeflog/32/61703_2.png) [@beeflog](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/beeflog)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-horned-hag-can-summon-horned-hag/77882/1 "2022-11-17T19:04:45Z")

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**Platform, device version and operating system:**  
(any)

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**What you were expecting to happen, and what actually happened:**  
Troops that summon “a random X” where X is a race or kingdom usually have themselves excluded from the pool, but this is not the case for Horned Hag.

**How often does this happen? When did it begin happening?**  
Noticed it today for the first time

**Steps to make it happen again**  
King Avelorn, Goblin King, King Highforge, Hyndla Frostcrown, Gar’Nok, Ancestor Brodir, Kobra, Nexus Portal, Umbral Portal, Vanya Soulmourn… I’ve neer seen any of these troops summon a copy of themselves, though they could given their spell text.

edit:  
Similar thread with no comment from the team back in February…

> [@Horned hag self summon?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/horned-hag-self-summon/74249):
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> Couldn’t find any existing mention of this, apologies if someone has brought it up already I think I saw horned hag summon herself in the adventure board today. I killed the summon quite fast but I’m like 90% sure it was a self summon If so, I think this would be the first “summon a random XYZ” troop that can summon itself? I thought everyone else cannot summon themselves (see for example vanya soulmorn, emperinazara, queen moonclaw? both Umbral portals… cocoon? I don’t remember exactly who …

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**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 8:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-horned-hag-can-summon-horned-hag/77882/2 "2022-11-17T20:16:29Z")

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“Usually”? I’ve seen Emperinazara summon a second Emperinazara.

I’m inclined to think this less of a bug (per se) than a consequence of the extremely narrow selection of “hags” (Hag, Night Hag, and now Horned Hag) making it occur much more often than with other random summons. (To say nothing of troops that can purposely summon themselves, e.g. Pyggra, Mecha Rat, Winged Bison…)

Further testing with previous random summon troops could still be interesting, though…

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**Author:** ![Jeto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jeto/32/101682_2.png) [@Jeto](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jeto)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 12:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-horned-hag-can-summon-horned-hag/77882/3 "2022-11-18T00:23:17Z")

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Hey!

Because the ‘hag’ troop pool is only 3 troops, like @Stratelier mentioned, Horned Hag can summon themself into battle.

Jeto (she/they) - Support Human 🧙🏻‍♀️

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**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 1:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-horned-hag-can-summon-horned-hag/77882/4 "2022-11-18T01:07:03Z")

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FWIW, this is new only for Switch, other platforms discussed this far back as 2018-19, where there indeed [was some sentiment](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/raging-bull/59271/20) of “summoners cannot randomly summon themselves”.

I may have to double-check with some of the ones I have … I can remember running double-Emperinazara team for a faction team run, maybe I’m getting that mixed up with this.

But as “hag” is not an official parameter (Troop Type or Kingdom), this implies Horned Hag’s summon pool is coded directly into the spell effect itself, similar to other troops with ‘unofficial’ summon types (e.g. Queen Moonclaw).

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**Author:** ![Graeme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@Graeme](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Graeme)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-horned-hag-can-summon-horned-hag/77882/5 "2022-11-18T01:38:25Z")

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Slightly off-topic: but the artwork for all 3 Hags is really good 👍

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**Author:** ![beeflog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beeflog/32/61703_2.png) [@beeflog](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/beeflog)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 2:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-horned-hag-can-summon-horned-hag/77882/6 "2022-11-18T02:12:16Z")

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yeah, Hag, Gnoll, and Kobold all seem to be hand-coded, and could be eligable to self-summon or not on a whim. The real test will come when we get a new kobold to see if it gets added to Emperinazara’s pool…
