# (not a bug) Backup talent doesn't combine well with sunbird

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-backup-talent-doesnt-combine-well-with-sunbird/48305>\
**Category:** Bug Reports\
**Created:** [November 3, 2018, 6:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-backup-talent-doesnt-combine-well-with-sunbird/48305 "2018-11-03T06:49:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Memleak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Memleak](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Memleak)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 6:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-backup-talent-doesnt-combine-well-with-sunbird/48305/1 "2018-11-03T06:49:08Z")

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Backup talent (used it from thief class) has a 50% chance of summoning a Bandit when an ally dies.  
If I use the spell from Sunbird that theoretically kills the sunbird and respawns it.

Now if the backup talent triggers this is what will happen:

1. Sunbird is casted;
2. Sunbird deals damage and dies;
3. Backup talent triggers and summons a bandit in the empty spot;
4. Sunbird wants to respawn but there are no empty locations to do so.

Pretty much the bandit talent, in a way, kills my sunbird. I suppose this will also overwrite any other summonings that can happen (like infernus or dragon soul). While I don’t know how it should work with other summons definitely sunbird should respawn before any other spells try to summon on death.

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 6:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-backup-talent-doesnt-combine-well-with-sunbird/48305/2 "2018-11-03T06:53:47Z")

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This has been mentioned before. The devs say this is the intended behavior. Guess you shouldn’t use Backup on teams with Sunbird.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 7:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-backup-talent-doesnt-combine-well-with-sunbird/48305/3 "2018-11-03T07:48:48Z")

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Yeah, I was bamboozled fren when this first happened to me - I’d put this in the Gameplay Chat category, since while I agree with you (it doesn’t work well with Sunbird), it’s not a bug. You could even put it in Feature Requests, if you wanted Sunbird’s spell to finish before triggering any traits.

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**Author:** ![Cyrup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/cyrup/32/50181_2.png) [@Cyrup](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cyrup)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 4:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-backup-talent-doesnt-combine-well-with-sunbird/48305/4 "2018-11-05T04:52:25Z")

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Hey @Memleak This is indeed working as intended, based on the order the talent works in after a Spell is cast (so the game can work correctly). Let me know if you want me to move the thread.