# No heroism scroll in tower of doom
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback
**Created:** [November 5, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449 "2018-11-05T20:54:15Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449/1 "2018-11-05T20:54:15Z")
Xbox. All 25 floors completely cleared, not a single heroism scroll.
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### Author:  [@Andruwjones](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Andruwjones)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449/2 "2018-11-05T21:02:43Z")
I got two on xbox…one on floor 2 and one on floor 11.
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### Author:  [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449/3 "2018-11-05T21:03:39Z")
Out of the 4 guilds I have doing ToD. Only 1 has found a Heroism scroll through Floor 12 on all. Seems the drop rate is super low.
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### Author:  [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449/4 "2018-11-05T21:04:09Z")
O/25 floor with every room cleared is more than low rate lol
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### Author:  [@Lissandra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lissandra)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449/5 "2018-11-05T21:34:54Z")
Did the epic room on the first floor and found a Heroism Scroll so it is possible to find it if you aren’t rushing straight for the doom and ignoring all the other rooms. Also, people are saying different things which makes me think Tacet saying every floor for every guild had the same drops but was random.
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### Author:  [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449/6 "2018-11-05T21:38:09Z")
Every room are same rewards for your guild but is different between other guilds
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### Author:  [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2018, 11:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449/7 "2018-11-05T23:56:20Z")
On my guild (PC/Mobile) we got Heroism Scrolls on Floors 11 and 13.
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### Author:  [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449/8 "2018-11-05T23:59:03Z")
Really weird how the RNG is, at least i hope we catched more luck scroll to compensate 0 heroism scroll in 28 floors
We only catched 1 fireball and 2 power and 2-3 luck
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### Author:  [@Andruwjones](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Andruwjones)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2018, 12:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449/9 "2018-11-06T00:09:20Z")
> [@Andruwjones](#):
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> I got two on xbox…one on floor 2 and one on floor 11.
Guild just Found another one on lvl15.
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### Author:  [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449/10 "2018-11-06T00:22:13Z")
My guess is the dev think we are too good and we don’t need heroism scroll so they give it to other guild 😛
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### Author:  [@Andruwjones](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Andruwjones)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2018, 12:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449/11 "2018-11-06T00:23:17Z")
> [@Rickygervais](#):
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> My guess is the dev think we are too good and we don’t need heroism scroll so they give it to other guild 😛
Maybe. We are top 5 on xbox LB though 🙂 but I get your point. RNG sucks, and its possible that it was scaled to help lower tier guilds.
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### Author:  [@MrRodster](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrRodster)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449/12 "2018-11-06T02:19:59Z")
This is something that should have RNG applied to _where_ the object appears, not _whether_ it appears.
In a guild-versus-guild competition where every advantage is multiplied by 30, the basic contents of the rooms as a whole should not be different. By this I mean in the 25 levels every guild should have the same number of “premium” scrolls. A guild that is gifted an extra luck scroll can score an additional 60 dooms over another guild with an otherwise indistinguishable performance. This is a huge unfair advantage.
Winning or losing because RNG gives an extra Valraven or two is bad enough, but not normalizing the floor contents across guilds leads to very lopsided results.
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### Author:  [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2018, 3:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449/13 "2018-11-06T03:00:09Z")
> [@MrRodster](#):
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> This is something that should have RNG applied to _where_ the object appears, not _whether_ it appears.
Exactly, and I thought scrolls would have been balanced similar to how valravens are since its a guild event. Or maybe it is since minimum of zero and maximum of two is within allowed +/-
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### Author:  [@Smash](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Smash)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2018, 5:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449/14 "2018-11-06T05:24:17Z")
See this is what I was expecting to happen.
But then it didnt, and its left a slightly sour taste in my mouth about it all
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### Author:  [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2018, 5:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449/15 "2018-11-06T05:34:30Z")
My recollection was that Luck scrolls were supposed to be rare—the phrase “one total for each guild every few floors” is stuck in my memory. ~~I would guess that Heroism scrolls are rarer than they were supposed to be, and that Luck scrolls are more common. We’ll have to see what the devs say, though.~~
Edit: post is 3 days old, but since I saw it I may as well edit it. This information does not seem to be correct.
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### Author:  [@Namour](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Namour)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2018, 5:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449/16 "2018-11-06T05:43:00Z")
We’ve received Heroism scrolls, but we aint seen a single fireball scroll yet.
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### Author:  [@Smash](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Smash)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2018, 5:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449/17 "2018-11-06T05:47:16Z")
We have beaten floor 17.
0 power
3 luck
1 heroism
0 fireball
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### Author:  [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2018, 1:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449/18 "2018-11-06T13:24:49Z")
> [@Rickygervais](#):
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> My guess is the dev think we are too good and we don’t need heroism scroll so they give it to other guild 😛
It’s only 30 dooms guaranteed. 😋
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### Author:  [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449/19 "2018-11-07T01:13:27Z")
My guild, quite a lower level one, has been insanely lucky by comparison. Having fully explored the first 14 floors, we’ve received:
1 power
3 luck
2 heroism
2 fireball
Just 14 floors. When I reach the limit of what I’m able to do, I’ll still be able to advance at least another couple of floors.
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### Author:  [@mld-81](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mld-81)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 1:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/no-heroism-scroll-in-tower-of-doom/48449/20 "2018-11-07T01:39:52Z")
Here over on PS4 in TAG, up to the end of floor 15 we have found the following:
1 Hedonism
3 Luck
4 Fireball
2 Power
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