# Nimhain's Lair: June 12th **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [June 12, 2017, 11:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493 "2017-06-12T11:56:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![evilbatwitch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/evilbatwitch/32/1499_2.png) [@evilbatwitch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/evilbatwitch)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493/61 "2017-06-14T04:10:37Z")
also, see Star Trek (original series) ep where not only does silicon based life regenerate, it breeds. (The Devil in the Dark) ---
**Author:** ![beanie42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beanie42/32/19802_2.png) [@beanie42](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/beanie42)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 4:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493/62 "2017-06-14T04:18:40Z")
> [@Draprion](#): > > haha i don’t see how quoting a fictional tv show where the most evil baddies can’t negotiate a set of steps really helps the argument! Oh, you want non-fictional proof of Rock regeneration? Here ya go: ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/4/84b24dada2856fcbe08a716348c24bc132fbdabb.JPG) ---
**Author:** ![Draprion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/draprion/32/8238_2.png) [@Draprion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draprion)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 4:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493/63 "2017-06-14T04:48:34Z")
That’s unequivocal proof indeed. Loss of hair → gain in bulk. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 5:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493/64 "2017-06-14T05:57:46Z")
> [@DonBoba](#): > > Garnok has been in there since the beginning of the game That’s not _strictly_ true. But it has been probably the _worst_ legendary ever made and been that way a long time… > [@mraider94](#): > > think we just need rapid changes. Every week change a variety of troop from all over that are underperforming +1 to this. Hell, many of us here could (and have been) giving them simpler ideas… > [@Troop Buff A-H Thread With Summary](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/troop-buff-a-h-thread-with-summary/16393): > > Original idea posted by Jainus: THREAD SUMMARYplay_button Open to see troops Next up "DRAGON CRUNCHER"! ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 6:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493/65 "2017-06-14T06:37:12Z")
Oh so there was a point you used Garnok in some of your strong teams? ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 6:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493/66 "2017-06-14T06:47:47Z")
> [@DonBoba](#): > > Oh so there was a point you used Garnok in some of your strong teams? No… but he wasn’t there at the beginning of the game, Grosh-Nak kingdom was only added many months down the line… ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 6:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493/67 "2017-06-14T06:53:38Z")
Hmm i thought that Grosh was one of initial kingdoms. Still does that change that garnok is the least used legendary since its release? No. And that has been an issue for 2 years. It’s great that devs will rework him. And the rest of quite useless groshnak gang. But we really need changes to troops faster. Remember how we did a whole topic on all the changes troops need? Thats a nice indicator that, sadly l, at least 80% of troops needs some rework, from adjusting certain stupid traits - like the joke of bond traits, to spell reworks. And let’s also remind how utterly useless poison and burn have become. ---
**Author:** ![mraider94](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mraider94/32/21939_2.png) [@mraider94](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mraider94)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 7:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493/68 "2017-06-14T07:16:55Z")
Imagine getting garnok as your legendary in the path bundles. That would suck so much. ---
**Author:** ![Beowulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beowulf/32/26390_2.png) [@Beowulf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Beowulf)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 7:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493/69 "2017-06-14T07:17:39Z")
I actually am trying to make a team with Gar’nok. This will be a headache ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 7:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493/70 "2017-06-14T07:30:21Z")
To be clear @donboba - I fully agree, was just being pedantic. ---
**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 8:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493/71 "2017-06-14T08:59:24Z")
Gar’nok’s release came at an unfortunate point of time… back in those days (of no ascensions, no traits, and lower-level caps - I think it was 15 at the time), the power of the troops scaled quite differently, and different effects were valued highly. Poor Gar’Nok kind of ended up near the end of that phase of the game, just as the power curve kind of took off and went ballistic, and he wasn’t designed in a way that moved well with that. He was also a bit of a failed experiment even _within_ the old meta, of a risk/reward troop… something that has never been terribly popular in Gems of War. So, he’s been slated for a rework for quite a while along with ALL the Orcs (due to their unfortunate timing, the whole kingdom ended up well below the power curve). Their Kingdom was never themed terribly well anyway. Good news is that I’ve seen the planned rework… it’s SUPER cool, and gives the Orcs a TON of flavor. It’ll be making an appearance during the next Grosh-Nak event (very soon) but I’ll leave the details for Nimhain in another Lair post! ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 9:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493/72 "2017-06-14T09:10:43Z")
Yes it seems quite nice from what I saw ;-). But are you not worried about players claiming that their prefered race should also have a specific “flavor”? Or in the long term all theraces will be special? ---
**Author:** ![mraider94](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mraider94/32/21939_2.png) [@mraider94](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mraider94)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 9:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493/73 "2017-06-14T09:24:41Z")
yay only 2 weeks away. ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 9:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493/74 "2017-06-14T09:44:12Z")
I know that Garnok is first legendary troops i got (my second, first being Jarl). Those happend when i was bellow level 100. And while i played the hell out of jarl, i never used Garnok. Not only that, but summoners were top troops back then, so i did use summoners, but just not Garnok. And like @turintuor it is nice if every class has its thing. Goblins have extra turn - which is an awesome thing about them. Goblin King should also be granted the extra turn tho 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 10:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493/75 "2017-06-14T10:13:39Z")
> [@DonBoba](#): > > Goblin King should also be granted the extra turn tho Too fat, just look at the picture. That Goblin Feast would actually warrant a turn penalty. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493/76 "2017-06-14T19:42:29Z")
@Nimhain any plan to nerf Justice?? Really boring to play this team over and over. The fact she is looping during 20 turns is very frustrating, even when you try to freeze this team with mab, she will almost alway try to freeze mab this is ridiculous. This team is beatable but the most boring team ever, everyone using it and it’s killing the game. Yeah pc will say there is no problem with her, very easy to beat bla bla bla but wait when you guys get the console AI. Imo 15 gems is to much it should be reduce to 10 so it wont always looping over and Over untill they get 160 att and then get lucky skull in cascade and kill everyone ---
**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493/77 "2017-06-14T20:00:43Z")
This is all I get in guild wars is Kraken Valkyrie Justice Mab I wish I could fight a kerbos or death knight, and the suprise cascades from a 4 up top gets me every time, but you can’t rage when it’s guild wars. So I just walk away. ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493/78 "2017-06-14T20:11:13Z")
I don’t know what you’re talking about. I get a pretty good variety in GW: Khorvash, Valk, Justice, Mab Kraken, Valk, Justice, Mab Behemoth, Valk, Justice, Mab Sylvanimora, Valk, Justice, Mab Snow Guardian, Valk, Justice, Mab etc… ---
**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493/79 "2017-06-14T20:14:41Z")
Lmao, very true, I look at half my own guilds defense and that is all they use too, something has gotta give. I don’t put that defense up tho. ---
**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/nimhains-lair-june-12th/25493/80 "2017-06-14T20:15:58Z")
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