# Next Big Step....REAL Online Pvs.P

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499>\
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\
**Created:** [October 28, 2016, 3:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499 "2016-10-28T15:40:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AboveOmnipotence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aboveomnipotence/32/11742_2.png) [@AboveOmnipotence](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AboveOmnipotence)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/21 "2016-10-29T19:26:46Z")

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LOL The folks that doesn’t want REAL Pvs.P are afraid of losing against real players, shame.

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**Author:** ![Darkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkness/32/2712_2.png) [@Darkness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkness)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/22 "2016-10-29T19:36:34Z")

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People, let’s not feed the troll, OK?

Why don’t we just all decide not to restate all the posts and viewpoints in the topic that @Kharybdys linked to, and just not post here and let this topic fade nice and swift by lack of activity?

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**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/23 "2016-10-29T20:36:12Z")

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> [@Lyya](#):
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> I agree with this (buff the AI). I feel like the benefit you’d get of “real” PVP is _mainly_ solvable by increasing the UI lookahead simulation (detecting whether or not a 4-match will cascade given what I know about the board right now, for example, and being more intelligent about spell usage).

The AI already abuses the hell out of “UI lookahead simulation”, I don’t think you can make it stronger without straight up cheating the player with “catchup logic” ala Mario Kart.

Smarter spell use is the biggest thing IMO, followed by smarter Mana play (matching what it needs/denying the player)

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/24 "2016-10-29T20:41:21Z")

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That may be the case on Console – since I play PC/Mobile exclusively, I’m in no place to comment – but on PC/Mobile, the AI never factors cascade-into-4-match or the like into its decision-making process. I have not seen the AI make a move that would seem superficially suboptimal (taking a 3-match for a color it doesn’t need, for instance) that translates into a cascade it could conceivably have foreseen.

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**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 9:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/25 "2016-10-29T21:16:29Z")

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I think you only need to look at the comment above to see what I was talking about. Smh

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**Author:** ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/26 "2016-10-29T21:17:32Z")

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> [@AboveOmnipotence](#):
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> LOL The folks that doesn’t want REAL Pvs.P are afraid of losing against real players, shame.

I don’t have anything against a live PvP, but you know how it goes: at first you like it, then you’re not sure why you ever wanted it at all.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/1/12e4cf39d93776575c876ede638452c233a6d55e.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Lady\_Kendra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lady_kendra/32/66912_2.png) [@Lady\_Kendra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lady_Kendra)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 12:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/27 "2016-10-30T00:10:10Z")

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Okay… Loved the cat pic in another post, but this pic of the guy and gal… Major NO!!! Talk about disrespectful!!! The guy’s a total loser in my book!

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**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/28 "2016-10-30T04:25:17Z")

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You mean losing without playing?

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**Author:** ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 4:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/29 "2016-10-30T04:41:45Z")

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Yeah, out of context, I guess it looks pretty bad. They pull increasingly worse pranks on each other, trying to top the last.

What can I say… I’m made of sugar, spice, and everything subhuman. Sirrian eradicated it, anyways.

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**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 4:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/30 "2016-10-30T04:59:10Z")

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Sirrian put the cat pic up? My dude!!

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/e/e7ea6ebc68ce0b48e5ffe175a938ff6d53376e9a.jpg)  
Afro cat looked into your soul, and didn’t like what he saw.

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**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 9:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/31 "2016-10-30T09:22:31Z")

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Real Time PvP

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/d/fd886e4cdfbbcf88a9cf174b18cd11fc37a210ce.gif)

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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 9:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/32 "2016-10-30T09:31:42Z")

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Or:  
[](https://i.imgur.com/ECNLTtX.jpg)

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**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 10:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/33 "2016-10-30T10:16:58Z")

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Aww, that is so cute.

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**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/34 "2016-10-30T18:54:51Z")

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Real-time PVP would be great for this forum at least. We need a few hundred “why are my ping times so low” and “anybody know what closed NAT means” threads.

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**Author:** ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/35 "2016-10-30T19:59:17Z")

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I put the cat pic up. Lel.

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**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/36 "2016-10-30T20:00:27Z")

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Nice work. Lel? Is that a lighter much lower pronounced laugh? I’m not hip to these things honestly.

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**Author:** ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/37 "2016-10-30T20:04:04Z")

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It started with someone mistyping “lol” but has now come to serve as a more honest “lol” with a bit of sarcasm. Like when you type lol but you don’t actually laugh out loud, but are still amused. Other spelling variations: lil, lul, lal, kik, kek, topkek.

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/38 "2016-10-30T20:23:43Z")

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“Kek” has roots in WoW, actually. The two factions (Horde and Alliance) can’t communicate directly in game, and words typed in /say come across garbled (letter count stays the same but the letters themselves are entirely replaced). When a Horde player types “lol,” an Alliance player sees “kek.”

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**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 10:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/39 "2016-10-30T22:28:07Z")

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“kek” is a bastardized Korean slangword that first appeared in WoW. It currently is popular in 4chan, literal cancer of the internet.

“topkek” is pure 4chan creation, therefore proving @Phaethon frequents that site, or socializes with those who do. 😉

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**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/40 "2016-10-30T22:32:56Z")

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> [@TaliaParks](#):
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> 4chan, literal cancer of the internet.

So hilariously true.

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