# New Simian (Ape/Monkey) Race? **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [July 4, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930 "2017-07-04T22:49:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DrPhoenixJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drphoenixj/32/26102_2.png) [@DrPhoenixJ](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DrPhoenixJ)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930/1 "2017-07-04T22:49:43Z")
It just occurred to me that our lower primate friends are completely unrepresented. What about a new race just for monkeys and apes? Attacks could include monkeyshines and monkey business - basically mucking up the opponent’s business in random and unfortunate ways. You already have a built-in mythic but you might have to call him King Kang for copyright issues. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930/2 "2017-07-04T22:50:39Z")
Just ask @Vangor we are still waiting for the Gorilla Mythic! 😍 A primate kingdom would had been perfect for it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 10:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930/3 "2017-07-04T22:52:15Z")
Yup! I been begging for this for some time now… ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 10:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930/4 "2017-07-04T22:59:51Z")
Lol i readed New Sirrian race ---
**Author:** ![DrPhoenixJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drphoenixj/32/26102_2.png) [@DrPhoenixJ](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DrPhoenixJ)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 11:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930/5 "2017-07-04T23:00:19Z")
Perhaps it is time for the rise of the Kingdom of the Apes? No blatant movie reference intended. Or is there? ---
**Author:** ![DrPhoenixJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drphoenixj/32/26102_2.png) [@DrPhoenixJ](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DrPhoenixJ)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930/6 "2017-07-04T23:02:45Z")
Man, if I had a dollar for every time I’ve done that… ---
**Author:** ![DrPhoenixJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drphoenixj/32/26102_2.png) [@DrPhoenixJ](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DrPhoenixJ)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 11:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930/7 "2017-07-04T23:06:23Z")
Kingdom colours: brown, green and yellow, because bananas, amiright? ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 11:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930/8 "2017-07-04T23:22:30Z")
> [@Eika](#): > > Gorilla Mythic! I hope the art isn’t just a gorilla with flames and spiky wings. That is feeling a little overdone… ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930/9 "2017-07-04T23:23:11Z")
I hope for something like this: ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/5/b505188d647611974fb2ef6a1576a60a5335f9e9.jpg) or ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/8/3857e0f1f946f829a255cb5c58f0edd8e0e9493e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DrPhoenixJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drphoenixj/32/26102_2.png) [@DrPhoenixJ](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DrPhoenixJ)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930/10 "2017-07-04T23:31:14Z")
Let’s not forget the legendary King ummm Larry? He’s an orangutan who summons monkey troops. Also another spell - Go Bananas which turns every brown gem green and every green gem yellow. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 11:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930/11 "2017-07-04T23:37:00Z")
There is quite of many apes to pick from and that makes this idea so damn great. ---
**Author:** ![DrPhoenixJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drphoenixj/32/26102_2.png) [@DrPhoenixJ](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DrPhoenixJ)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 11:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930/12 "2017-07-04T23:52:50Z")
Clearly, we need to monkey around with it. Huge potential, especially for all the jokes that come with the territory. Another attack - Simian Scream for silencing opponents. Plus Monkey’s Paw - Deathmark an enemy and take 5 damage. ---
**Author:** ![en9nhcet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/en9nhcet/32/1673_2.png) [@en9nhcet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/en9nhcet)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 12:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930/13 "2017-07-05T00:09:57Z")
i read this as sirrian race 😢 ---
**Author:** ![Zelfore](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelfore/32/22295_2.png) [@Zelfore](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelfore)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930/14 "2017-07-05T00:29:40Z")
If we split up Wildfolk’s any thinner we’ll be left with a bunch of useless traits like [Centaur Slayer](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops?filter=centaur+slayer) or [Stryx Slayer](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops?filter=stryx+slayer) and another [Sharkey](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops?filter=merfolk) incident. We’ve just had [Urska](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops?filter=urska) separated recently! Let’s worry about new races when all our current ones can actually manage a 4-of-a-kind bonus… ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930/15 "2017-07-05T04:21:20Z")
Agree with @zelfore we really don’t need any more racial types. Synergies are spread way too thinly already… ---
**Author:** ![Kurokazna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kurokazna/32/11246_2.png) [@Kurokazna](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kurokazna)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930/16 "2017-07-05T04:28:22Z")
I misread the M as double Rs. I might need more coffee. New @Sirrian race when? ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930/17 "2017-07-05T04:31:32Z")
Lol i did the same 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930/18 "2017-07-05T04:34:05Z")
One way to get around the useless trait portion is to have a “wildfolk slayer” that lumps Centaurs, Stryx, Wargare, Urska etc into one. (ie all beastmen types) But yeah, team bonuses are an issue still. And lumping them all togeather there would make the change away from wildfolk meaningless. EDIT: I too read “New Sirrian Race?” 😛 ---
**Author:** ![DrPhoenixJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drphoenixj/32/26102_2.png) [@DrPhoenixJ](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DrPhoenixJ)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930/19 "2017-07-05T04:36:07Z")
To be honest, I don’t know enough about the overall troop mechanics here. I would certainly not advocate for changes that adversely affected play. ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 6:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930/20 "2017-07-05T06:59:04Z")
face it ppl, father developer of the New Race will be Sirrian (and ive read New Sirrian Face) and i think i like gorilla and monkeys idea but first i wanna see much more merfolks and much more consistency among current races by consistency i mean: - better synergy between the troops of same race/kingdom - better toop balance - more unique “character” of troops belonging to same kingdom/race, just like they did with orcs if there is space to add a different unique character to gorilla/monkey race, then i think it would be time to add them, just not yet 😛 [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-simian-ape-monkey-race/26930.md?page=2)