# New Mythic question - Jotnar Stormshield

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-mythic-question-jotnar-stormshield/19481>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\
**Created:** [February 3, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-mythic-question-jotnar-stormshield/19481 "2017-02-03T21:11:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![hnnng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e57/32.png) [@hnnng](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/hnnng)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-mythic-question-jotnar-stormshield/19481/1 "2017-02-03T21:11:30Z")

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For me he does 16 true damage boosted by allies with Barrier and Giant allies. So I have two Giants on my team and when I cast him he does 31 true damage. How?

Shouldn’t it be 16 damage + 10 (2 Giants) or does he count himself for an additional 5?

\*No one has barrier

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**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-mythic-question-jotnar-stormshield/19481/2 "2017-02-03T21:12:40Z")

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Sounds like he does the same thing as The Dragon Soul and counts himself as an ally.

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**Author:** ![hnnng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e57/32.png) [@hnnng](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/hnnng)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-mythic-question-jotnar-stormshield/19481/3 "2017-02-03T21:15:20Z")

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That’s pretty sweet then. Cause I was thinking he wasn’t as good as Emperor Khorvash and he is only a legendary.

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 9:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-mythic-question-jotnar-stormshield/19481/4 "2017-02-03T21:16:04Z")

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Also, he’ll count Barrier’d Giants twice, so he can get quite deadly.

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**Author:** ![hnnng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e57/32.png) [@hnnng](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/hnnng)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-mythic-question-jotnar-stormshield/19481/5 "2017-02-03T21:18:57Z")

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I haven’t used him enough yet, and don’t have him fully traited, but I think I’d still prefer Khorvash since he does over 20 true damage to _2_ targets AND drains them. But we’ll see. Plus, when a Giant dies on your team, you lose the additional +5 damage.

So far, Jotnar pairs nice with Jarl Firemantle.

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**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-mythic-question-jotnar-stormshield/19481/6 "2017-02-04T02:17:12Z")

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And people think Khorvash is fine the way he is.