# New Guild Guardians Available
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068
**Category:** Official News
**Created:** [December 16, 2019, 7:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068 "2019-12-16T07:01:03Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2019, 1:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068/41 "2019-12-16T13:31:24Z")
Surprise!
> [@Persistence spell casts in the wrong order](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/persistence-spell-casts-in-the-wrong-order/60078):
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> Platform, device version and operating system: All What you were expecting to happen, and what actually happened: It’s subtle, but a dev can verify this really quick. Let’s recap the ability text for Persistence: However, the way the spell is implemented, it Devours, then deals damage to the selected target, then deals damage to another target. This means it can devour your selected target first. That stinks because you’re prone to select a weaker enemy. I think a player would expect damag…
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### Author:  [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2019, 1:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068/42 "2019-12-16T13:33:00Z")
> [@Raz-0](#):
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> Out of 260 I pulled 83 guardians.
That’s a pretty unexpected number. Guild Guardians used to drop at 50%, which this isn’t even close to. Maybe the rate gets proportionally lower the more you have at mythic? Your first set is probably complete, 83:260 roughly matches a 50% \* 6 / 12 = 25% drop chance.
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### Author:  [@Chalky123](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Chalky123)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068/43 "2019-12-16T15:16:39Z")
Could have sworn this happened last time when guardians was introduced…
And when gnomes were added…
“Its the fault of X” only works the first time, not the 3rd
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### Author:  [@Starlite](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Starlite)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068/44 "2019-12-16T16:48:41Z")
Seems to me there’s only two ways to fix this.
1. Build a robot to trawl the key logs and take away all the guardians people got from Gold Keys.
2. Convert all copies of Guild Guardians that have dropped into Gem Keys and relaunch them next week.
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### Author:  [@Koromac](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koromac)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068/45 "2019-12-16T16:54:23Z")
@Sirrian
We need official response about this. Don’t sweep it under the rug!
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### Author:  [@Potemkinz](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Potemkinz)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068/46 "2019-12-16T17:15:31Z")
which is good if it were in guild chest, the smaller the number, the better
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### Author:  [@Clark](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Clark)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068/47 "2019-12-16T17:18:33Z")
I suspect that the Devs will find some scapegoat to blame this on and since it will be a lot of work to take away the mythic guardians those that got them there will be allowed to keep it.
I just don’t understand why this was not tested by the beta testers as this was new content and not a bug fix (read this as stealth nerf as all bug fixes lately have just been nerfs in disguise).
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### Author:  [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068/48 "2019-12-16T17:27:42Z")
I don’t understand how they could mess this one up. Do they have unsupervised interns releasing guild guardians or something?
This seems like a no brainer. You’re releasing new guild guardians, you should check for things that could possibly go wrong. Will they be available where they should be? Check guild chests. Will they NOT be available where they shouldn’t be? Check other chests, check event shops, check soulforge. It’s not even a completely new thing, just make sure things are done the same for the new guardians as they are for the old. This really shouldn’t have happened. Come on, I know you can do better.
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### Author:  [@MatrimCauthon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MatrimCauthon)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068/49 "2019-12-16T17:37:54Z")
Omgzzz if i smh any harder, it’s gonna do a full exorcist spin.
But hey, look at how quick they fixed it. :eyeroll:
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### Author:  [@igniteice](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/igniteice)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068/50 "2019-12-16T17:48:55Z")
Well that’s really, really irritating, because I used a colossal amount of minor and major clan orbs to get my guardians to where they are, yet people have gotten just as far through gold chests? I really hope they can track and remove the guardians that people got from gold chests. That’s super unfair that I had to waste guild keys to get them when others got them from gold keys…
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### Author:  [@Micio](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Micio)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068/51 "2019-12-16T17:53:44Z")
Cuz was an easy fix, look like instead that changing the color that give bonus to Queen Moonclaw spell require whole Nasa working on it at very least.
Past 1 month since report and still bugged the same (could have been useful together with the new wargare guardian lol).
Ps: and there’s no need to find any scapegoat, is 780% 505 fault ofc :3
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### Author:  [@Goodly](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Goodly)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2019, 6:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068/52 "2019-12-16T18:28:13Z")
people have thrown orbs on them too so simply removing copies isn’t as easy as just doing a wipe now.
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### Author:  [@PowerPlay](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/PowerPlay)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2019, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068/54 "2019-12-16T19:24:50Z")
Funny, I opened a lotta gold keys and I didn’t get one of the new statues.
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### Author:  [@Casper1875](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Casper1875)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068/55 "2019-12-16T19:30:40Z")
When Zuul was made available in the soulforge, those of us who crafted & traited him had everything taken back from us as it was considered ‘unfair’ - I expect the same to happen with guild guardians that people got from gold chests. Refund the gold, refund the stones, refund the orbs. Either that or admit your update is a massive cluster\*\*ck & allow us all to have what others have - shit, I’ll even give you 5k gold keys if you want so I can have the guardians too rather than having my guild chest drop pool watered down beyond belief while I grind my ass off to get them all within touching distance of mythic. I’m ascension orb poor (only 3 minors) so I’ll welcome the opportunity to have it easy.
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### Author:  [@Crow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Crow)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068/56 "2019-12-16T22:05:04Z")
I also demand a callback.
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### Author:  [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2019, 10:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068/57 "2019-12-16T22:14:11Z")
> [@igniteice](#):
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> Well that’s really, really irritating, because I used a colossal amount of minor and major clan orbs to get my guardians to where they are, yet people have gotten just as far through gold chests? I really hope they can track and remove the guardians that people got from gold chests. That’s super unfair that I had to waste guild keys to get them when others got them from gold keys…
Just for reference…
Gnomes briefly appeared in soul forge, devs let them keep it.
Entire guild got Xanthenos from mythic task, devs let them keep it.
Zull Goth craftable as normal mythic in soul forge, devs took that away.
When my schedule allowed it, I used to always check soul forge at reset in case something good slipped in.
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### Author:  [@Voq](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Voq)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2019, 10:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068/58 "2019-12-16T22:19:51Z")
I assume no one was punished in any of those cases? So is the moral to abuse any potential bug in the Soul Forge or chests? If not, you’re missing out on easy troops.
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### Author:  [@Clark](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Clark)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2019, 10:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068/59 "2019-12-16T22:20:13Z")
Gnomes and Zuul are a kinda big deal, Xan not so much. But these guardians are a serious nerf to everyones guild seals in that they are going to take a large percentage of possible high value rolls away from every single seal that someone opens until they get the guardians mythic.
The Devs better take them away from everyone who got them with gold keys, leave them with the folks that got them legitimately, so what its a lot of work, its the Dev’s own screw up so they should do the work and get rid of them.
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### Author:  [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2019, 10:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068/60 "2019-12-16T22:47:56Z")
> [@Voq](#):
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> I assume no one was punished in any of those cases? So is the moral to abuse any potential bug in the Soul Forge or chests? If not, you’re missing out on easy troops.
No players were punished…
And while I wouldn’t phrase it the way you did, you can get some nice things checking the game right after new week. Because almost everything that isn’t supposed to be in the soul forge, ends up in the soul forge at least once.
Checking gold key chests is a new one to think about, I guess not surprising with a new batch of common troops released. When the next batch releases, I bet there will be quite the spike of key chests opens just to check lol
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### Author:  [@Katana\_stg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Katana_stg)
#### Post date: [December 17, 2019, 12:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-guild-guardians-available/60068/61 "2019-12-17T00:47:55Z")
Also demand a callback… I prepared so many guild seals and you told me somebody already get mythic guardians from GOLD chest? It’s unfair.
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