# New Faction - The Warren **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [December 28, 2018, 7:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397 "2018-12-28T07:00:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 3:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397/41 "2018-12-28T15:05:07Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#): > > You need to restart your client: I did, but it only worked after restarting my PC too… Well, at least it worked out. ---
**Author:** ![Sheba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sheba/32/45190_2.png) [@Sheba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sheba)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 3:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397/42 "2018-12-28T15:12:41Z")
![bunny](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/f/9f41d2f603c3bd525531c6140527a1e419be06f2.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397/43 "2018-12-28T16:45:11Z")
The sparkly level-up thing for Pan’s Vale is showing up underground now. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/8/f884260dd62676bbc438010dbfc0607a90842ac7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397/44 "2018-12-28T19:11:10Z")
> [@Vasilisk](#): > > RNG was in my favour this time. 7,000 shards to mythic all, albeit just enough! I used 7,000 shards to mythic all of them as well. 😸 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/2/82a4d6a2be66434cb24bc386188f0e459ab38746.jpeg) Someone else in my guild did it with 7,000 shards. ---
**Author:** ![noob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/noob/32/54823_2.png) [@noob](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/noob)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397/45 "2018-12-28T19:35:59Z")
Mine was 7620. Way too many legendaries tho ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/d/8d16dc6e03c02c50990f461721e73010d63eab72.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![TimeKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/timeknight/32/50221_2.png) [@TimeKnight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TimeKnight)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397/46 "2018-12-28T19:51:59Z")
You need to upgrade it as least 9 times to reach Quailty Level 10. Using too much high-rarity Treasures will get you too quick to reach Hoard Level 100. That’s why I create a spreadsheet to calculate the best, balance way to do it. But as you’re already at Hoard Level 100, I suggest donating 5x Priest’s Chalice 4 times to reach Quailty Level 10. ---
**Author:** ![AlphaNate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/alphanate/32/44933_2.png) [@AlphaNate](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AlphaNate)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397/47 "2018-12-28T20:16:15Z")
What are y’all doing with these banners? Why keep reusing the same color sets? It’s meteor all over. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397/48 "2018-12-28T20:26:10Z")
The devs have said before that they don’t design or schedule glory troops based on prior availability of the arcane stone (this was a while ago, and things might have changed). So there were feast-or-famine situations in the past, where a traitstone wasn’t available for a year and then was in the glory shop two out of three weeks. I suspect something similar happens here: the devs design a set of four troops, then choose the appropriate banner colors, independent of anything except whether that exact banner has been used before. ---
**Author:** ![Macawi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/macawi/32/21289_2.png) [@Macawi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Macawi)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397/49 "2018-12-28T20:31:43Z")
![screenshot_5542](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/0/20d6c989cb6f65769fd07013bf9573562d189ccf.png) A little more than 9,600 shards here. RNG strikes again. 😞 ---
**Author:** ![TenPoundDump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tenpounddump/32/50013_2.png) [@TenPoundDump](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TenPoundDump)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397/50 "2018-12-28T20:39:17Z")
I’m using Cedric, Egg Thief, Greed and Skeleton Key… The Delve is giving me the moneybags trait for each troop. My gold cap in these matches is 600. anyone else experiencing this? ---
**Author:** ![noob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/noob/32/54823_2.png) [@noob](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/noob)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397/51 "2018-12-28T20:43:45Z")
Cedric’s room gives you moneybag trait. Its one of the few positive effects you can get after defeating a room You can see other positive effects at [Delve Room Table - Gems of War Database](https://gowdb.com/extras/delvetable) ---
**Author:** ![TenPoundDump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tenpounddump/32/50013_2.png) [@TenPoundDump](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TenPoundDump)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 8:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397/52 "2018-12-28T20:47:32Z")
I didnt even notice I had been through it! Thank you ---
**Author:** ![TimeKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/timeknight/32/50221_2.png) [@TimeKnight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TimeKnight)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397/53 "2018-12-28T21:29:04Z")
This Faction seems to have 3 potential Treasure rooms available at once, unlike Crypt Keeper with only got 1 garanteed room. Quite interesting to use gold-based team, as Cedric/Mimic room will be quite common. Overall, total multiplier might be a bit higher than expected, but still, I think maximum multiplier won’t be as high as Sea of Sorrow / Primal Rift. ---
**Author:** ![AlphaNate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/alphanate/32/44933_2.png) [@AlphaNate](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AlphaNate)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 3:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397/54 "2018-12-29T15:49:50Z")
Yes but why do I start with super fast gold gaining? ---
**Author:** ![ClaussenJuice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/claussenjuice/32/49477_2.png) [@ClaussenJuice](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ClaussenJuice)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397/55 "2018-12-29T16:07:19Z")
If I want to use this faction for farming purposes, is it best to stay at level 20? ---
**Author:** ![noob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/noob/32/54823_2.png) [@noob](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/noob)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397/56 "2018-12-29T16:32:17Z")
Not quite sure what you mean by that ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397/57 "2018-12-29T16:36:29Z")
> [@ClaussenJuice](#): > > If I want to use this faction for farming purposes, is it best to stay at level 20? Yes. It’s not that you _can’t_ beat level 30 or 40 easily. It’s just a little bit faster at level 20, which is kind of the point of farming: maximum resource gain with minimum effort expended. ---
**Author:** ![ClaussenJuice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/claussenjuice/32/49477_2.png) [@ClaussenJuice](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ClaussenJuice)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397/58 "2018-12-29T16:39:34Z")
Awesome thanks! ---
**Author:** ![anon88626343](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5fc32e/32.png) [@anon88626343](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/anon88626343)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397/60 "2018-12-29T16:47:33Z")
> [@TimeKnight](#): > > Overall, total multiplier might be a bit higher than expected, but still, I think maximum multiplier won’t be as high as Sea of Sorrow / Primal Rift. Did somebody do the math yet and can confirm? ---
**Author:** ![AlphaNate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/alphanate/32/44933_2.png) [@AlphaNate](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AlphaNate)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397/61 "2018-12-29T20:04:03Z")
In the first room, make a 4-match and your gold jumps from 0 to 180+. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397.md?page=2) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-warren/50397.md?page=4)