# New Faction - The Labyrinth **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 6:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040 "2021-01-08T06:59:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AMT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amt/32/56829_2.png) [@AMT](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AMT)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 8:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040/22 "2021-01-08T08:41:43Z")
> [@Shimrra](#): > > why is this a thing? A Banner Power Creep shortly after Warband-Exclusive Banners are introduced? 🤔 😊 🖖 #CoincidencesAreImprobable ---
**Author:** ![ChunkyMono](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/chunkymono/32/69308_2.png) [@ChunkyMono](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ChunkyMono)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 9:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040/23 "2021-01-08T09:08:12Z")
> [@Grundulum](#): > > Doesn’t Wild Plains also have 11 units of tribute, You are thinking of Pridelands…4 units of Gold, 4 units of Glory, and 3 units of Souls. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 9:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040/24 "2021-01-08T09:11:20Z")
Dang. Thanks for the correction ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 10:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040/25 "2021-01-08T10:15:53Z")
Why can’t I battle the selected room??? ![8-01-2021_9-13-29_PM-d5b2aacx](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/6/66eaff3bf487a219ee7978630977eeeff1acc3e7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Dank](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dank/32/74470_2.png) [@Dank](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dank)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 10:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040/26 "2021-01-08T10:35:46Z")
> [@Fleg](#): > > Why can’t I battle the selected room??? You need to clear the top left room to unlock the top middle room, top middle is a dead-end in the labyrinth. ~~The good news is that top left unlocks top right too, so the rush path is shorter going along the top.~~ [Edit:strikethrough on bobbins, need more coffee.] ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 10:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040/27 "2021-01-08T10:42:02Z")
> [@Dank](#): > > You need to clear the top left room to unlock the top middle room I know but why can’t I access from behind? > [@Dank](#): > > top middle is a dead-end in the labyrinth No it isn’t. It has 3 entrances at 6, 9 and 12 o’clock. (I realize 6 and 9 o’clock goes nowhere) but the 12 o’clock entrance clearly connects to top-right room. > [@Dank](#): > > The good news is that top left unlocks top right too, so the rush path is shorter going along the top. ~~It’s a 4 room delve whether you go top or bottom.~~ Bottom path is MUCH shorter, the only access to boss room is the bottom-middle room. ---
**Author:** ![xolid99](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xolid99/32/66856_2.png) [@xolid99](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/xolid99)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040/28 "2021-01-08T11:17:37Z")
> [@Fleg](#): > > Why can’t I battle the selected room?? > [@Spring Break](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spring-break/67980/55): > > Wonder if the next faction will have something bugged like the last two… > > Release/go home strategy is a big indication of the QA effort provided… Not forgetting problems with Android ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Sytro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sytro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sytro)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040/29 "2021-01-08T11:18:57Z")
> [@CyberZ](#): > > Without pics, the faction is unplayable. We don’t know which black pics is which unit, not very easy to play. A faction WE is long, but without pics … Try this: turn on mana counters for troops. That way you’ll be able to identify units by mana they are using… Just did lvl 140 pure run, but it was messy… especialy will all that troop jumbling arround ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040/30 "2021-01-08T11:19:52Z")
How disappointing! Even though you can walk from the top-middle room to the top-right room, they are not connected in the data’s topology. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/e/ce5dbf0d4d378c1165d56d398034abf894345a62.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Sytro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sytro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sytro)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040/31 "2021-01-08T11:24:22Z")
> [@Fleg](#): > > It’s a 4 room delve whether you go top or bottom. it’s not… you always need to get to bottom middle room in order to access boss room graphic in the background might be misleading 😛 given dungeon battles are like in picture below: | | | | | --- | --- | --- | | NW | N | NE | | W | M | E | | SW | S | SE | Possible movement paths are: W-NW W-SW SW-S NW-N NW-NE NE-E E-SE S-SE S-M Shortest path is:W-SW-S-M Other way is generaly: W-NW-NE-E-SE-S-M (skipping treasue room in N, E also is treasure room, but i’m not sure if it can be skipped or not) ---
**Author:** ![Dank](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dank/32/74470_2.png) [@Dank](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dank)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040/32 "2021-01-08T11:35:11Z")
> [@Fleg](#): > > the 12 o’clock entrance clearly connects to top-right room You’re studying the graphic, and I’m inferring the route from what I saw being unlocked. The labyrinth image doesn’t match the underlying graph of rooms. ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040/33 "2021-01-08T11:40:14Z")
> [@Dank](#): > > The labyrinth image doesn’t match the underlying graph of rooms. It seems to match the graphic everywhere but these 2 rooms which is just stupid. > [@Dank](#): > > My assertion was wrong (post edited). Isn’t the bottom route shorter? > > - Top: middle left, top left, top right, middle right, boss > - Bottom: middle left, bottom left, bottom middle, boss I was wrong too, the bottom path is MUCH shorter because as pointed out to me the only access to boss room is through bottom middle. Your “top” example won’t get you to the boss. ---
**Author:** ![Dank](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dank/32/74470_2.png) [@Dank](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dank)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040/34 "2021-01-08T11:48:48Z")
> [@Fleg](#): > > I was wrong too And I was wrong again! There isn’t a “top route” (middle right does not unlock boss). My post got a hasty edit to remove that, but you were too alert. Thank you, Sytro, for your clear-headed analysis. It wouldn’t have taken much effort to get the graph and image to match. But this is low on the list of recent disappointments. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040/35 "2021-01-08T12:32:20Z")
> [@Shimrra](#): > > … okay honestly why is this a thing? > > It can’t be for _variety’s_ sake, because _these two_ are the only other +red +green banners (of the +2 +1 -1 type). The new Cunning Banner from Warband: Goblin Gang gives +2 Red, +1 Green, -1 Brown. FWIW ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 12:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040/36 "2021-01-08T12:54:59Z")
Fair enough. … but not an excuse to suddenly be doing +2+2-1s. That is nonsense. Actually, that would be okay _ish_, its the singular such banner that is the issue. ---
**Author:** ![Luceo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/luceo/32/57692_2.png) [@Luceo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Luceo)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 1:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040/38 "2021-01-08T13:37:48Z")
![Screenshot_88](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/b/ab3995d13d2aa4800cb2af0f72f005a206cc8910.jpeg) It says Splash Damage in spell description (50% of main damage) But it gives description of Light Splash Damage on top right (25% of main damage). Maybe it deals Light splash. I didn’t check tho ---
**Author:** ![Lagility](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lagility/32/60497_2.png) [@Lagility](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lagility)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 1:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040/39 "2021-01-08T13:53:09Z")
Here’s what Sytro said, combined with my best Paint effort. ![ApplicationFrameHost_ms2245tbH4](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/8/a80725333c0b1a366ce8d915ba9369d6692862f9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Whiskeyjack](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whiskeyjack/32/65850_2.png) [@Whiskeyjack](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Whiskeyjack)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 2:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040/40 "2021-01-08T14:21:12Z")
Has anyone seen Rhinotaur explode a column? When I used it, it only ever gave me a row to select (8ish casts, I’d estimate) ---
**Author:** ![Snooj](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/snooj/32/65852_2.png) [@Snooj](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Snooj)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 2:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040/41 "2021-01-08T14:33:26Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/d/7/d7449d6f35d28f22f3bb82535effd757761a11f6.jpeg) I would be all for this if the graphic made it obvious there are two +2 colours. Maybe the two colors should be side by side instead of top and bottom. Basically, have it look the same as +1/+1 banners but with a -1 border. ---
**Author:** ![HounganAtLarge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hounganatlarge/32/28697_2.png) [@HounganAtLarge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HounganAtLarge)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 2:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040/42 "2021-01-08T14:39:17Z")
![BadDesign](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/6/365a91b703131dea43511edf2052897a597503f5.jpeg) I’m not going to call this a bug, although it should be. And the picture previously posted above should also be considered a bug. It’s just TERRIBLE design. It’s actually WORSE than Dark Pits. That took some doing. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-the-labyrinth/68040.md?page=3)