# New Faction - Amanithrax

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-amanithrax/56658>\
**Category:** Official News\
**Created:** [July 26, 2019, 7:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-amanithrax/56658 "2019-07-26T07:00:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-faction-amanithrax/56658/155 "2019-07-29T13:48:23Z")

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> [@Mithran](#):
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> (and possibly not even max hoard quality)

> [@Mithran](#):
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> Assuming no ingot drop break points were crossed, or it gets _much_ worse (I don’t think they were).

So I, uh… decided to run over your numbers assuming a Hoard Quality of 1, and then assuming ingot drop break points WERE crossed (so a lower lowball estimate of 6 potential Legendary/Mythic ingots rather than 8 – that’s what you meant, right?).

For Quality, I doubled the percentages attributed to Glory, Souls and Ingots, and quadrupled the percentage for Gold (Quality 10 gives x2 and x4 to these, respectively; dividing the estimate by 2 and 4 multiplies the percentage by the same).

For Ingots, I obviously just recalculated assuming 6 instead of 8 and replaced those percentages, doubling for Hoard Quality.

That came out to the mailed rewards being 94.3% of the lowball estimate, and then ~100.6%, after the ingots, not taking into account the +0.25 to multiplier.

While fishing-for-numbers-that-add-up-to-100%-and-then-deciding-that’s-the-correct-answer is methodologically flawed, the main ways I can see it being drastically misguided would be if the possible rewards were valued differently, and were compensated disproportionately to their normal drop rates – **e.g.** if, **hypothetically** , Glory was considered to be the most valuable, and normally only drops 10% of the time, but we were given 20% as Glory. So, possible.

**IF** these are anywhere close to the assumptions made for mailing out compensation, it would make

> [@Saltypatra](#):
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> We have tried to be as generous as possible with the rewards.

look a little bit like

> [@(!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/7213):
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> Tower of Doom will be another way to earn gems.

I.e. Not technically _wrong_, just needing a little more context 😝.

Realistically, it seems more like, “the least generous we could possibly be, while still drawing from legitimate potential values [no full clears, lowest Hoard Quality] so as not to overcompensate newbies[/anyone?] or upset our publishers”. 🤷‍♂️

Having said all of that…

- Losing out on ~25+% of what would have been earned from the Boss Room (not taking into account extra time/Gems to finish the event, though) isn’t _thaaat_ much in the scale of “total rewards earned from the event”, given that x0.25 (boss multiplier) is 6.25% of x4 (non-lowball multiplier estimate), and 1 Chest Level is probably ~1/6-7 of the average expected Chest from the Faction (i.e., ~4% of total Chest rewards) (I take it back, that adds up).

- An easy way to ensure varying Hoard Quality didn’t affect compensation would be to give it all in the form of Chaos Shards – a solution that may(?) have left many Delve regulars unhappy (as stated earlier in the thread – although I’m guessing Quality 1 rewards weren’t what they had in mind) (depending on the resultant calculations, as well).

Nonetheless, yeah, below the lowball estimate isn’t _exactly_ what comes to mind when “as generous as possible” is said. 🤷‍♂️

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Disclosure: I also didn’t participate in the event, beyond level 20-30.

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> [@Mithran](#):
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> shows that these all add up to only 77.3% of what was mailed out.

Wording seems inverted? 😛🤷‍♂️

E.g. “What was mailed out adds up to only 77.3% of these [tangible values of what could have been lost at the lowball 3.5 multiplier estimate]”

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