# Need Solid Team Help **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [January 13, 2017, 9:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/need-solid-team-help/18252 "2017-01-13T09:13:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Liverah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@Liverah](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Liverah)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 7:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/need-solid-team-help/18252/61 "2017-01-18T07:53:21Z")
Hello Guys, I want to make alternative team and I made below team for PVP. Please comment. - Wraith / Blue Mana (Not change). - Courage / Red Mana (Not change). - Ferit or Grave Knight or Herald of Chaos / Purple Brown Mana (I don’t decide. Help). - Blade Dancer or Manticore / Green Yellow Mana (I don’t decide. Help). Waiting for your comment. ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 8:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/need-solid-team-help/18252/62 "2017-01-18T08:36:04Z")
- courage - gives attack to everyone so it can stay on bottom or any middle spot, it is cool unit and can generate mana and skulls but remmember it is a risky troop it can often give the extra turn for the enemy - manticore - it raises own attack so its better to put it 1st or 2nd slot so that it gets a chance to attack with skull damage rather sooner - blade dancer will lower all enemies armor a little but it will not deal much damage after their armor is low i think you picked colors nicely, you still need to work on making synergy within units spells normally you want at least one unit that creates or transforms gems of some color so you could generate mana for other units that way and generally you want some units spells to benefit from other unit spells and deciding their order, but two is even better and most wanted solution usually i will not comment the end result of your team coz i think what you need now is experience, play it once and see what happens then tell us what do you think of it yourself! ---
**Author:** ![Liverah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@Liverah](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Liverah)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 8:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/need-solid-team-help/18252/63 "2017-01-18T08:54:51Z")
I can play my team one time but expect wraith all units level is 1 therefore I can not test team. If I decide play any team, I will spend all my souls to this team and play it all the time therefore I decide to make team very hardly. ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 8:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/need-solid-team-help/18252/64 "2017-01-18T08:56:07Z")
to have a minimal idea i think you can test lv1 at quests ---
**Author:** ![Liverah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@Liverah](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Liverah)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 8:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/need-solid-team-help/18252/65 "2017-01-18T08:57:06Z")
> [@Annaerith](#): > > let us know if/when you loot a new legendary and we\* might think of somethig else 😜(\*me and the unspecified amount of willing forum urers) 😁 Wraith Ranger IK Alchemist Wraith is very powerful instead of Serpent. I leveled Wrait to 17 and Ultra Rare now and all traits. He is very nice and improve my team quality. ---
**Author:** ![Liverah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@Liverah](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Liverah)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 10:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/need-solid-team-help/18252/66 "2017-01-24T10:45:21Z")
Hello, Anna I looted below rarity troops; You can find below my revised legendary and epic troop list. I looted a lot of rare, ultra rare common troops. Can we improve my below team with new troops? or create new team for above team ranking. Team (now) Wraith Ranger Infernal King Alchemist Legendary List; Abhorath Carnex Celestasia Infernal King Kerberos Krystenax Epic List; Anointed One Atlanta Bonnie Rose Brian the Lucky Bul Tauros Couatl Cthyryzyx Dark Song Dimetraxia Dokkalfar Elwyn Emperina Fel Dras Finley Grand Inquisitor Green Seer Hellcat Herald of Chaos Ice Golem Ice Witch Ifrit Keghammer Lady Anariel Lady Sapphira Lord Ironbeard Luther Madrid Night Hag Nobend Brothers Princess Elspeth Ragnagord Raven Rock Troll Rowanne Salamander Scarlett Sir Snothelm Skeleros Sparkgrinder Sunweaver Tal Rae Tassarion Terraxis The Silvermaiden Tyri Venbarak Visk Werewolf Wild Fang Zephyros Other important; Giant Spider Acolyte Alchemist Valkyrie Banshee Manticore Rock Worm Treant ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 12:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/need-solid-team-help/18252/67 "2017-01-24T12:12:38Z")
krystenax is amazing (at least for me) his damage is = magic + 4 + removed gems/2 the spell displays less damage then he actually does so you need to calculate it for yourself atm im sick and cant rly think well, i hope someone else will help, just so you know out of the new legendaries you got krystanax is one id go for if you want a new deck (he might not work well with IK so maybe just a new deck) also to improve old deck you can try giant spider ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 12:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/need-solid-team-help/18252/68 "2017-01-24T12:32:37Z")
My low level account is having some fun with Zombie, Zombie, Valk, Krystenax, dragon banner. The Zombies are level 1 and have two traits. Gets a bunch of souls. In place of the zombies, you can use any purple that doesnt block blue, yellow, or red (skulls are a low priority for you, so they will likely die anyways) and an empowered soothsayer in the second slot to get started much faster. You also can use the Lions Banner, which I prefer when using the soothsayer variant. Since Krystenax summons, you’ll get a silver drakon to replace any zombies that die and still keep their necromancy bonus. ---
**Author:** ![Liverah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@Liverah](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Liverah)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 1:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/need-solid-team-help/18252/69 "2017-01-24T13:18:40Z")
I hope get well soon. Can I change ranger with giant spider? ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 4:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/need-solid-team-help/18252/70 "2017-01-24T16:24:53Z")
Hi Liverah, I saw that you pulled Infernal King. You might want to check out this video which gives a nice tutorial on how you can build teams for yourself around the combination of Infernal King and Alchemist: > [@Team Building Tutorial with "The Versatile Duo"](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/team-building-tutorial-with-the-versatile-duo/18391): > > I made a tutorial for people who want to make their own team decks using a dash of guidance and good-advice along with a dash of their own creativity. [[- YouTube] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh5-33w_i_Q) Stan ---
**Author:** ![Liverah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@Liverah](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Liverah)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/need-solid-team-help/18252/71 "2017-01-24T18:56:22Z")
Missing youtube link ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/need-solid-team-help/18252/72 "2017-01-24T21:39:55Z")
I found it on Krudler’s youtube channel: [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh5-33w_i_Q) ---
**Author:** ![Liverah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@Liverah](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Liverah)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 10:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/need-solid-team-help/18252/73 "2017-01-25T10:52:50Z")
@Stan Thanks for your link. Anna, I want to take your opinion/comment for below team; Giant Spider Infernal King Alchemist Banshee ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 11:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/need-solid-team-help/18252/74 "2017-01-25T11:10:39Z")
i dont really know, colors suppose to match but with such cards you should try to make a complete loop. meaning if 2 or 3 units transforming colors to feed each other the way that it could loop forever with some luck giant spider fills IK \>\> IK fills alchemist \>\> alchemist fills IK \>\> the loop is broken plus giant spider being on top does not make any good use of his summoning ability, if he was anywhere else then he could summon troop on top in case if top troop was killed i think you are safer with your old team, but i am a little sad that you did not realise it yourself giant spider can create a close loop with green seer for example, but it needs rebuilding nearly whole team tbh ill be sick the whole week, i can talk and think but im more likely to overlook something so thats why i dont wanna do something like working on more complicated teams for now your team looks like it could somehow work but the colors transofrmation strategy feels very messy. what colors you wanna sacrifice and what colors to keep? i dont see it working well ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 11:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/need-solid-team-help/18252/75 "2017-01-25T11:25:52Z")
maybe try: krystenax IK alchemist valkyrie dragon banner (to fill IK/alchemist as priority) or krystenax valkyrie IK alchemist lion banner (to fill valk/krystenax as priority) ---
**Author:** ![Liverah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@Liverah](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Liverah)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 7:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/need-solid-team-help/18252/76 "2017-01-31T07:07:44Z")
Thanks for your reply. I made below team and played and liked it. Also please comment. Giant Spider (Blue/Green) Infernal King (Yellow/Purple) Ghoul (Brown) Succubus (Purple/Red) +1 Blue and +1 Purple Banner Waiting. ---
**Author:** ![Liverah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@Liverah](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Liverah)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/need-solid-team-help/18252/77 "2017-01-31T19:50:53Z")
I changed as below, Ghoul Infernal King Giant Spider Succubus Waiting for your comment. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/need-solid-team-help/18252.md?page=3)