# Mythics in Arena **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [March 26, 2018, 10:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/mythics-in-arena/37525 "2018-03-26T10:14:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Wolfmanic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wolfmanic/32/38187_2.png) [@Wolfmanic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Wolfmanic)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 10:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/mythics-in-arena/37525/1 "2018-03-26T10:14:10Z")
Recently hit 200, been bouncing between hard and WL1, completing about 75% of the runs. Hit 200 and can’t complete a normal run due to OP mythic weapons. Just sucks. ---
**Author:** ![collectorofgems](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/collectorofgems/32/38138_2.png) [@collectorofgems](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/collectorofgems)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 10:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/mythics-in-arena/37525/2 "2018-03-26T10:46:20Z")
@Wolfmanic, you are not the only one that thinks so. 😭 > [@Dawnbringer unbalances Arena](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dawnbringer-unbalances-arena/30338): > > The dawnbringer doesnt seem like much. It deals aoe damage and is in line or behind legendary troops. This is cool if it is used in pvp, explore, etc. However, it is not… it is being used by players who already have 1.5 million souls to burn, so that they can instant kill your entire team in arena. And yes. 14 damage to everyone in the arena is a wipe, and its likely that their 10 damage, plus 2 for every yellow troop can get that high. Now add the barrier and its a complete loss. No matter how… ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 11:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/mythics-in-arena/37525/3 "2018-03-26T11:54:07Z")
In summary of that 6+ month old thread: The devs are aware, but are worried you’d just complain about Runic Blade if they fixed it. Many, many players have agreed Runic Blade is far more approachable but thus spaketh a single representative of one of the devs once. Endgame players are happy they get to farm trophies and grief newbies at the same time, that’s another factor in leaving it. Around your point in the game, it’s really best to transition to PvP and forget about Arena because of DB. It’s one of a handful of places where more consideration is given to endgame players than anything else, and it’s a shame it’s part of one of the most new-player-friendly modes. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfmanic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wolfmanic/32/38187_2.png) [@Wolfmanic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Wolfmanic)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 12:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/mythics-in-arena/37525/4 "2018-03-26T12:07:19Z")
Thanks for the great replies. Just in case a dev is listening, I was enjoying the mode and the game, having fun, then at 200, smack, brick wall. ---
**Author:** ![AngryMidget](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/angrymidget/32/10478_2.png) [@AngryMidget](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AngryMidget)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 12:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/mythics-in-arena/37525/5 "2018-03-26T12:09:01Z")
Smack, brick wall for all without DB. They’ve listened, they’ve ignored. Sorry 😟 ---
**Author:** ![Dorgath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Dorgath](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dorgath)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/mythics-in-arena/37525/6 "2018-03-26T15:37:40Z")
> [@Slypenslyde](#): > > …thus spaketh a single representative of one of the devs once… I’m fairly sure if one dev speaks, he/she is speaking for _all_ of the devs. ---
**Author:** ![Xtowers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xtowers/32/6476_2.png) [@Xtowers](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Xtowers)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2018, 11:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/mythics-in-arena/37525/7 "2018-04-01T23:50:27Z")
DB hasn’t ruined my experience. I rarely face it. It is actually my next target, since I’ve already got Xathenos and 250 wins with each class. I’m saving up all my souls for Dawn Bringer and doing the daily dungeons to grab another couple Pharos Ra when they’re available in the Soul Forge. I like having an epic thing to go after. ---
**Author:** ![Draprion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/draprion/32/8238_2.png) [@Draprion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draprion)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2018, 11:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/mythics-in-arena/37525/8 "2018-04-01T23:51:42Z")
DB is a game changer. All the best in your quest. ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/mythics-in-arena/37525/9 "2018-04-02T00:00:11Z")
I’ve actually been beating the heck out of Dawnbringer teams recently. The only times where I really can’t beat them are the games where I haven’t been able to bring _anything_ online by the time Dawnbringer fires, that’s a problem vs. any team. I can’t tell you what, specifically, has changed. Maybe after ascending to level 1k+ my intuition is just better. But a lot of my old tips still apply: - I’m most successful with Runic Blade. This means, when picking troops, you sort of want to avoid green and yellow unless they bring something amazing to the table. - Color balance is key. If you end up stacked on green, you MUST pick some other weapon. Black Manacles comes to mind, I’ve also used Spark Rocket 20.16. - Avoid yellow like the plague. It boosts Dawnbringer. Any yellow troop you pick had better do something serious. - You can’t win if you can’t kill things with Runic Blade. Every troop you pick needs to be designed to be fast and soften things up for Runic Blade. - Runic Blade 1 has to kill something. Runic Blade 2 has to kill something. Runic Blade 3 is your only guaranteed hero kill. Pray you can use skull damage to fix that. - That means you want super-cheap direct damage. If i get 2 of those I tend to win my races. - “Explode” troops are also very good, because they deal with Barrier before whatever else they do if you explode skulls. - If you can’t do direct damage, status effects like poison and burn are very good: almost every Arena troop only needs to lose about 2-5 HP before the 1st Runic Blade can kill it. - Extra turn troops are also very valuable, so long as they actually do something for you in addition to that extra turn. - Charm? Heck yes. It’s bad later in the match but it can soften 2 troops AND weaken the hero. If you play an awful lot, you’ll intuitively know which troops make your team more likely to win. I’m going to try and figure out a convenient way to log my teams, I have a feeling I can build a rank chart out of it, but :effort:. I still want DB out of arena, but believe me: there’s a reason the level 1000+ people tell you they don’t have a problem. I haven’t quite figured out what that reason is yet. Give me time.