# My very first match against Deathknight class
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)
**Created:** [April 18, 2017, 5:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765 "2017-04-18T05:16:40Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@nando1881](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/nando1881)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 5:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765/1 "2017-04-18T05:16:40Z")
It was a good match until…
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaa-ntFkCww)
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### Author:  [@Mad\_Butch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mad_Butch)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 7:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765/2 "2017-04-18T07:17:48Z")
That just sucks… sorry you had to go through that.
It seems to fit right into the “you need a different invade team for every opponent”, which is forced upon us a little to much lately. You either need to silence him before you kill him, or invade with an immune team.
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### Author:  [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 8:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765/3 "2017-04-18T08:55:54Z")
i think you meant stun
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### Author:  [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 9:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765/4 "2017-04-18T09:33:28Z")
I dont see a problem with needing different invade teams. This is supposed to be strategy game. Strategy should imply planing and doing the right action in adequate sitation. Picking a right team to counter the enemy team sounds like that.
Omnipotent teams shouldn’t exist.
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### Author:  [@Mad\_Butch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mad_Butch)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 9:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765/5 "2017-04-18T09:50:59Z")
I did, sorry 🙂
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### Author:  [@Draprion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draprion)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 9:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765/6 "2017-04-18T09:54:03Z")
Could have done without the ‘now you’ve f-ed up’ background noise …
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### Author:  [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 11:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765/7 "2017-04-18T11:05:10Z")
If you can see the team before the fight…
_cough_ _cough_ Guild Wars
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### Author:  [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 1:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765/8 "2017-04-18T13:41:16Z")
Same, that was unnecessary imo.
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### Author:  [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 1:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765/9 "2017-04-18T13:52:20Z")
You can always see the team before the fight - you just either have to pay gold before every match or spend some real $$$ to get free scouting.
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### Author:  [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 1:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765/10 "2017-04-18T13:54:34Z")
No, we will not be able to scout Guild Wars battles.
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### Author:  [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765/11 "2017-04-18T14:07:31Z")
@DonBoba wasn’t talking about Guild Wars. He was talking about PVP.
Guild Wars uses a completely different team selection mechanic. Unless you’re going to completely ignore all of the bonuses for colors and the like, you’re not going to be changing your invade team on the fly, which means scouting is useless anyway.
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### Author:  [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765/12 "2017-04-18T15:10:31Z")
You can have several teams of troops using one same color that can be good versus one team or another.
So according to the defense team, you should be able to tweak your invade team even if you want the color bonus.
And I’m not sure how much players will go for teams with x4 troops of the same color.
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### Author:  [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765/13 "2017-04-18T15:15:54Z")
Where did a dev say that you can’t scout defense teams in Guild Wars? Does someone have a quote?
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### Author:  [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 3:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765/14 "2017-04-18T15:34:15Z")
Oops, I guess @turintuor said you can’t scout in GW. 😳
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### Author:  [@Whiskeyjack](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Whiskeyjack)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765/15 "2017-04-18T15:36:23Z")
Wait… You can scout in guild wars?! I thought (assumed) that you couldn’t.
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### Author:  [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 3:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765/16 "2017-04-18T15:45:27Z")
> [@Whiskeyjack](#):
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> Wait… You can scout in guild wars?! I thought (assumed) that you couldn’t.
I assumed that if the devs were going to change such a commonplace aspect of fights that they would explicitly say that scouting won’t be allowed in Guild Wars.
Scouting is a part of strategy afterall. So, that would be a very significant change.
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### Author:  [@Whiskeyjack](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Whiskeyjack)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 3:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765/17 "2017-04-18T15:57:19Z")
Paging @Saltypatra, can you please confirm whether we can scout in guild wars battles? We didn’t get to see the battle screen in any of the previews.
Thanks!
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### Author:  [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765/18 "2017-04-18T20:56:52Z")
goos to see Deathlnight class maybe useful in an extremely small percentage (\>1%) of battles.
Scout and change your team as appropriate, then stop complaining.
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### Author:  [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 10:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765/19 "2017-04-18T22:44:17Z")
I think that scout will make battles super easy because of the paper-rock-scissor system.
And there was no icon of it in all the screenshots that Sirrian gave to us.
So why assuming that we could scout?
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### Author:  [@Draprion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draprion)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/my-very-first-match-against-deathknight-class/22765/20 "2017-04-19T03:50:40Z")
They did mention in, I think in either the final sneak peek or in the round-up collated by @MakoSipper.
I’m too lazy to find it though … 🙂
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