# Most kingdoms from one tribute | Leader: Rasper - 17 kingdoms

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\
**Created:** [February 8, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585 "2016-02-08T18:08:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Verdugo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/verdugo/32/9407_2.png) [@Verdugo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Verdugo)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585/21 "2016-12-12T00:00:32Z")

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Probably not, no.

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**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 1:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585/22 "2016-12-12T01:20:32Z")

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I’ve gotten 10 a few times, have a screenshot of one of them somewhere. I play almost exclusively on console so we are still short a few kingdoms compared to PC.

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**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 9:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585/23 "2017-02-01T21:21:38Z")

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![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/6/867c5c0152f6166bd483039c28ede27327bec4ba.png)

Guessing this will hold the record for a while.

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**Author:** ![hnnng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e57/32.png) [@hnnng](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/hnnng)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 9:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585/24 "2017-02-01T21:43:48Z")

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Would anyone care to do the math on what the odds are of hitting ‘x’ amount of kingdoms all at once with a 10% chance per kingdom (assuming you have them all maxed).

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**Author:** ![Terrorist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/terrorist/32/11988_2.png) [@Terrorist](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Terrorist)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585/25 "2017-02-01T21:57:42Z")

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Awesome Rasper Awesome 🙂 👍

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585/26 "2017-02-01T22:01:17Z")

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You can do it for yourself here:

> **[Binomial Probability Calculator](https://stattrek.com/online-calculator/binomial)**
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> Use the free, online Binomial Calculator to compute individual and cumulative binomial probability. For help in using the calculator, read the Frequently-Asked Questions or review the binomial sample problems.

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**Author:** ![hnnng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e57/32.png) [@hnnng](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/hnnng)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585/27 "2017-02-01T22:02:12Z")

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I’m math illiterate, that’s why I asked…

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585/28 "2017-02-01T22:07:04Z")

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Probability of success of a single trial: 0.1 (in your example; 0.2 assuming kingdoms have double tribute chance)  
Number of trials: 27  
Number of successes: (Whatever number of kingdoms you wish to see tribute from)  
Cumulative probability P(X ≥ x): Odds of receiving the desired tribute or more

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**Author:** ![SirCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sircookie/32/13060_2.png) [@SirCookie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/SirCookie)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585/29 "2017-02-01T22:07:05Z")

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For 10% chance with 27 kingdoms:

> **[PDF, 27 trials, p=.1 - Wolfram|Alpha](https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=PDF,%2B27%2Btrials,%2Bp%3D.1)**
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> Wolfram|Alpha brings expert-level knowledge and capabilities to the broadest possible range of people—spanning all professions and education levels.

says  
{0, 0.0581497}, {1, 0.174449}, {2, 0.251982}, {3, 0.233317}, {4, 0.155545}, {5, 0.0795006}, {6, 0.0323891}, {7, 0.0107964}, {8, 0.00299899}, {9, 0.000703467}, {10, 0.000140693}, {11, 0.0000241595}, {12, 3.579182615574883\*^-6}, {13, 4.5886956609934245\*^-7}, {14, 5.098550734437126\*^-8}, {15, 4.909715522050585\*^-9}, {16, 4.0914296017088295\*^-10}, {17, 2.9415506940390184\*^-11}, {18, 1.8157720333574278\*^-12}, {19, 9.556694912407466\*^-14}, {20, 4.247419961070016\*^-15}, {21, 1.5731185040999946\*^-16}, {22, 4.76702577000002\*^-18}, {23, 1.1514555000000052\*^-19}, {24, 2.132325000000021\*^-21}, {25, 2.8430999999999784\*^-23}, {26, 2.430000000000011\*^-25}, {27, 1.0000000000000092\*^-27}}]

Note that the tribute chance increases to 20% when you hit three stars, and the red guild statue also gives a 6% bonus. It’s unclear if that’s an additive or multiplicative 6%, but I assume the max is 26% tribute chance per kingdom currently.

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585/30 "2017-02-01T22:07:30Z")

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Or yeah, that works too. 😃

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**Author:** ![Verdugo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/verdugo/32/9407_2.png) [@Verdugo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Verdugo)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585/34 "2017-02-01T22:10:46Z")

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585/36 "2017-02-01T22:11:56Z")

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Guys, this is a legitimate discussion here, can we keep the spam in end-of-life or troll threads please?

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**Author:** ![SirCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sircookie/32/13060_2.png) [@SirCookie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/SirCookie)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585/40 "2017-02-01T22:15:24Z")

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> [@KrudlerTheHorse](#):
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> There is absolutely nothing of value here.

Nothing of value?  
But, but, Math! 😰

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**Author:** ![KrudlerTheHorse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/krudlerthehorse/32/9505_2.png) [@KrudlerTheHorse](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KrudlerTheHorse)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585/41 "2017-02-01T22:16:35Z")

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I know… But after a year… after the topic has been pummeled into paste???

Alright, fair enough. If people want to keep it going, who am I to frustrate that. I’ll clean up.

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**Author:** ![SirCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sircookie/32/13060_2.png) [@SirCookie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/SirCookie)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585/42 "2017-02-01T22:24:06Z")

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So, if it is indeed a 26% chance per kingdom, there’s a 1 in 91,186 chance of getting 18 or more tributes from 27 kingdoms. Good luck, y’all!

> **[27 trials, p=.26, endpoint 17 - Wolfram|Alpha](https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=27%2Btrials,%2Bp%3D.26,%2Bendpoint%2B17)**
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> Wolfram|Alpha brings expert-level knowledge and capabilities to the broadest possible range of people—spanning all professions and education levels.

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**Author:** ![KrudlerTheHorse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/krudlerthehorse/32/9505_2.png) [@KrudlerTheHorse](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KrudlerTheHorse)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 10:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585/43 "2017-02-01T22:27:47Z")

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Is 55% the chace of a a Death Marked troop to die, if you just let him sit there round after round?

I conceived it as 10% per round each round diminishing by the % chance of the heal. So round one would be the base 10% chance, round two would be 9% (10% chance for effect to shake off, right)? Carrying on round three is 8% (now 20% chance to shake off), round four 7% (30% chance to shake off), and all the way we go down leading to a total of 55% chance.

Is this the right approach?

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**Author:** ![KrudlerTheHorse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/krudlerthehorse/32/9505_2.png) [@KrudlerTheHorse](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KrudlerTheHorse)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585/44 "2017-02-01T22:29:19Z")

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Mathematically yes, but I heard a dev say (don’t ask me to track that down!) that the max is capped at 16 kingdoms.

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**Author:** ![SirCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sircookie/32/13060_2.png) [@SirCookie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/SirCookie)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585/45 "2017-02-01T22:29:28Z")

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For Death Mark, check out this thread:

> [@Death Mark, new hotness, or basic?](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/death-mark-new-hotness-or-basic/9634/77):
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> I agree with Lyya’s math given the mechanics stated above. Because math and spreadsheets are fun, here’s another set of numbers that y’all might find interesting. Assuming no cleanse spells, no “restamping” the death mark, and the battle actually lasting another 10 turns, here are the sorted probabilities of each outcome of death mark on a single troop: Chance Outcome 17.50% Troop is auto-cleansed on turn 3 16.20% Troop is auto-cleansed on turn 2 14.70% Troop is auto-cleansed on turn 4 1…

Sorry, right thread, wrong post. Lyya’s post is what I thought you were looking for. But it sounds like we need some new calculations since first-turn cleanse of death mark doesn’t actually happen.

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**Author:** ![KrudlerTheHorse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/krudlerthehorse/32/9505_2.png) [@KrudlerTheHorse](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KrudlerTheHorse)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 10:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585/46 "2017-02-01T22:30:10Z")

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Well I couldn’t have been further off the beam, could I lmao

Thanks for the link!

edit: That link doesn’t answer my q.

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 10:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/most-kingdoms-from-one-tribute-leader-rasper-17-kingdoms/3585/47 "2017-02-01T22:32:29Z")

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This has been explored in detail:

> [@Death Mark, new hotness, or basic?](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/death-mark-new-hotness-or-basic/9634/57):
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> For those curious, if a troop gets deathmarked, and the debuff is not cleansed, after 10 turns the troop has a 23.23% chance to die. The troop’s chances to die are as follows: Turn | Mortality per turn (if still deathmarked) | Cumulative mortality ---- | ----------------------------------------- | -------------------- 1 | 9% | 9.00% 2 | 8% | 15.48% 3 | 7% | 19.…

I think the numbers are off slightly since it’s been determined since then that status effects have a zero percent chance to wear off on turn 1, so the mortality rate is somewhat higher than listed, but the general idea remains the same.

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