# More lies from Infinity Plus 2

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\
**Created:** [December 16, 2021, 10:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375 "2021-12-16T10:25:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 10:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375/1 "2021-12-16T10:25:57Z")

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![Screenshot_20211216-042240_Chrome](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/0/70e5e0e42d7ba7e0c73870dd0574bccf3929d8da.jpeg)

My theory is, they planned to “boost the rate” prior to having a vault event at the same time. Once they figured it out they decided to “forget” to boost the rate until the majority of the day is over.

It’s not a conspiracy theory when your company shows a consistent trend of “making mistakes” that can be attributed to hopes of making money from those mistakes.

Mail each player a 100 cursed runes if I’m wrong. Your words mean nothing to us anymore. Actions do.

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**Author:** ![Gerry1366](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gerry1366/32/19889_2.png) [@Gerry1366](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gerry1366)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 11:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375/2 "2021-12-16T11:11:13Z")

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maybe the drop rate is increased but only from 0.1 to 0,2  
its like to easter you say "hey i did hide many eggs somewhere but in 3 days you only find one.  
so the meaning of this vault event is useless

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**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 11:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375/3 "2021-12-16T11:34:29Z")

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> [@awryan](#):
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> My theory is, they planned to “boost the rate” prior to having a vault event at the same time. Once they figured it out they decided to “forget” to boost the rate until the majority of the day is over.

Nah, the base chance is just so incredibly low that the boost doesn’t really make a difference. Remember the initial drop rate of Heart of Rage? This is basically the same. Infinity Plus Two is perfectly aware that the new gnome only shows up once in a blue moon. You can tell by the announcement, whenever it’s “increased chances” instead of numbers the real data is considered to controversial to publish. 😉

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**Author:** ![Raistlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/raistlin/32/61294_2.png) [@Raistlin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Raistlin)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 1:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375/4 "2021-12-16T13:08:24Z")

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When the devs talk, this is all I hear: [Charlie Brown Teacher Speaking - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04)

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**Author:** ![Neritar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/neritar/32/39263_2.png) [@Neritar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Neritar)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375/5 "2021-12-16T16:59:54Z")

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I’ve farmed 128 gnomes today. 14 of them were Cursed gnomes which gave me 165 Cursed runes + 1vault key.  
It’s unfair to say that the chance for Cursed gnome isn’t increased, because the current rate is ~3 times higher than yesterday.  
The base chance for them is low, but that’s completely different topic.

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**Author:** ![Raistlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/raistlin/32/61294_2.png) [@Raistlin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Raistlin)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375/6 "2021-12-16T17:29:13Z")

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Then it is RNG at its best as I have farmed for a couple hours and haven’t seen any.

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**Author:** ![sylverscale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@sylverscale](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sylverscale)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 2:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375/7 "2021-12-17T02:19:07Z")

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Well, if you’re taking all of them no wonder we don’t get any. 😂

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**Author:** ![WhoDat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whodat/32/63679_2.png) [@WhoDat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WhoDat)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 5:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375/8 "2021-12-17T05:13:36Z")

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How many battles you done or farming for how many hours? I did not get but one in 10 hours farming yesterday.

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**Author:** ![Draegor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/draegor/32/70763_2.png) [@Draegor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draegor)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 5:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375/9 "2021-12-17T05:20:19Z")

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On switch I have got about 7 total, as opposed to 0 the day before.

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**Author:** ![Neritar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/neritar/32/39263_2.png) [@Neritar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Neritar)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 7:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375/10 "2021-12-17T07:54:05Z")

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10 hours (with breaks) of farming E1 with Dust Devil/3xIronhawk team. More than 1.5k battles.  
At the end - 18 cursed gnomes which gave me 221 cursed runes + 1 vault key.

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**Author:** ![sylverscale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@sylverscale](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sylverscale)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 11:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375/11 "2021-12-17T11:55:14Z")

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I didn’t count my battles but did the same amount of time - 1 cursed gnome.

I also did 5 GaPs, one of which had 2 cursed gnomes, all others had 0.

In total, I got 17 cursed runes.

We either are the luckiest (you) and unluckiest (me) of players or there’s something wrong with their spawn rates/RNG.

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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 11:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375/12 "2021-12-17T11:58:28Z")

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Did not see a single cursed gnome today, what is this Celebration thing…

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**Author:** ![Tabu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tabu/32/63708_2.png) [@Tabu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tabu)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 12:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375/13 "2021-12-17T12:02:50Z")

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I don’t buy this number 18. Especially not with 1.5k battles.

I did 2200 battles and 5 gnomes

Wife 1700 battles and 3

But this person got 18 in 1500. 👌

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**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 12:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375/14 "2021-12-17T12:21:34Z")

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> [@Eika](#):
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> Did not see a single cursed gnome today, what is this Celebration thing…

It’s the Cursed Gnome Convention, feel free to join in to make it a bit more lively.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/e/5e958bdc3ce9693380eba87a365bb9514fb2c733.png)

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**Author:** ![Neritar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/neritar/32/39263_2.png) [@Neritar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Neritar)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 1:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375/16 "2021-12-17T13:34:12Z")

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![slvl18](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/c/3c51b545e51bfb17050ef95b6af1525326f4c0fa.png)  
I didn’t buy any Soulforge levels (well, you can doubt that too, your choice). Oh, and I wrote more than 1.5k battles. I didn’t count battles, I count gnomes, and my 168 killed gnomes should average to ~1867 battles (well, you can also doubt that the gnome rate during vault event is ~9%, again, your choice).  
Maybe you think I was bragging? Firstly, I’m not a new user on this forum and I didn’t lie before that and not going to start now. Secondly, there are players with twice as many battles and cursed runes, there is nothing for me to brag about.  
And in case you’re going to start some useless debate… I won’t answer to you, believe in what you want.

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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 1:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375/17 "2021-12-17T13:43:09Z")

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@Neritar are we even playing the same game. It looks like you had quite of a blast with the Celebration… 🙃

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**Author:** ![Tabu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tabu/32/63708_2.png) [@Tabu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tabu)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375/18 "2021-12-17T13:47:24Z")

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I finished 0/105, do you know how many gnomes thats is? I got 5 gnomes.

You said you killed 168 gnomes in total and got 18.

If the deviation in rng is that much…

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**Author:** ![Bhaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/bhaya/32/57715_2.png) [@Bhaya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Bhaya)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 7:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375/19 "2021-12-17T19:10:16Z")

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> [@Neritar](#):
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> 10 hours (with breaks) of farming E1 with Dust Devil/3xIronhawk team. More than 1.5k battles.  
> At the end - 18 cursed gnomes which gave me 221 cursed runes + 1 vault key.

I’ve got more hours than you. And with the same setup I got 2 Cursed Gnomes in 3 days. That net me all together 11 cursed runes.

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**Author:** ![Bhaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/bhaya/32/57715_2.png) [@Bhaya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Bhaya)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 7:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375/20 "2021-12-17T19:12:41Z")

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> [@Eika](#):
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> Did not see a single cursed gnome today, what is this Celebration thing…

The cake is lie.

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**Author:** ![Wow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wow/32/76075_2.png) [@Wow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Wow)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 9:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/more-lies-from-infinity-plus-2/73375/21 "2021-12-17T21:08:45Z")

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No they didn’t lie. The formula is

**0 x chance to encounter**

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