# Merchants and other offers disappear in delve daily runs **URL:** \ **Category:** Bug Reports\ **Created:** [February 27, 2023, 9:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/merchants-and-other-offers-disappear-in-delve-daily-runs/79071 "2023-02-27T21:36:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 9:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/merchants-and-other-offers-disappear-in-delve-daily-runs/79071/1 "2023-02-27T21:36:54Z")
**Platform, device version and operating system:** Playstation 4 **Screenshot or image:** No image of it yet. Will try tomorrow during the faction event **What you were expecting to happen, and what actually happened:** I saw the background for the merchant pop up after a delve room fight but then it disappeared with no offer. **How often does this happen? When did it begin happening?** Today i actually noticed for the first time. 2 or 3 times in one run. **Steps to make it happen again** Do a delve run with daily sigils. Tomorrow will be a faction event so i can test this out more. ---
**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/merchants-and-other-offers-disappear-in-delve-daily-runs/79071/2 "2023-02-27T21:39:32Z")
Is there supposed to be offers during a deep delve or no? ---
**Author:** ![gow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@gow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/gow)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 10:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/merchants-and-other-offers-disappear-in-delve-daily-runs/79071/3 "2023-02-27T22:09:57Z")
They won’t show up in any events including faction assault. But not sure why you didn’t get any in daily delves maybe just bad rng? ---
**Author:** ![Kezef](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Kezef](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kezef)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 10:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/merchants-and-other-offers-disappear-in-delve-daily-runs/79071/4 "2023-02-27T22:16:18Z")
Assuming you do all eight non-Boss rooms during a delve run? Also assuming that it’s 15% for one of the offers to appear after a non-Boss battle? (I think that’s the number advertised in the patch notes.) You’re not quite 75% to get at least one Offer during a delve run. So it’s plausible that you could spend three sigils, do all 24 non-Boss rooms, and never see one. It’s not too terribly likely, but “bad RNG” can land you on that approximately 1-in-64 odds of it happening. (It’s actually a little less if my math is correct, namely 0.85 ^ 24.) You’re also roughly 60% to not see an Offer in a single Explore run, using the similar baseline percentages. ---
**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 10:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/merchants-and-other-offers-disappear-in-delve-daily-runs/79071/5 "2023-02-27T22:21:51Z")
Im saying i saw the back ground pop up but then It disappeared quickly with no offer. Good to know they aren’t in events or deep delves. ---
**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 10:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/merchants-and-other-offers-disappear-in-delve-daily-runs/79071/6 "2023-02-27T22:23:02Z")
I had the back ground pop up 3 times and disappear without any offers so it would have been a great one on my 3rd run. ---
**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 11:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/merchants-and-other-offers-disappear-in-delve-daily-runs/79071/7 "2023-02-27T23:04:26Z")
> [@Santandrix](#): > > Good to know they aren’t in events or deep delves. I just used my two daily sigils on a deep delve and got the Daemon offer after the 2nd battle. So they _can_ show in deep delves, but only outside of events. In events, they won’t show up, whether it’s a deep delve or not. Reference: > [@\[Not a bug\] Wandering Merchants not appearing in Faction Assaults?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-a-bug-wandering-merchants-not-appearing-in-faction-assaults/79048/12): > > You will only encounter Merchants in Explore/Delve battles, and not during the Faction Assault Events. > > (They won’t appear in events) ---
**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 11:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/merchants-and-other-offers-disappear-in-delve-daily-runs/79071/8 "2023-02-27T23:15:44Z")
Thank for finding this out for me. 👍