# Matchmaking - is being attacked by opponents 500 levels above you normal?

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/matchmaking-is-being-attacked-by-opponents-500-levels-above-you-normal/1252>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\
**Created:** [November 10, 2015, 1:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/matchmaking-is-being-attacked-by-opponents-500-levels-above-you-normal/1252 "2015-11-10T13:37:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Tard\_Carnival](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tard_carnival/32/609_2.png) [@Tard\_Carnival](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tard_Carnival)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/matchmaking-is-being-attacked-by-opponents-500-levels-above-you-normal/1252/21 "2015-11-11T00:08:28Z")

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> [@orbin111](#):
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> P.S. @MrSammy, your build with two Terraxises was really tough today.

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I think it actually beat me one of the two times I’ve seen it today.

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**Author:** ![outlander](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/outlander/32/21087_2.png) [@outlander](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/outlander)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/matchmaking-is-being-attacked-by-opponents-500-levels-above-you-normal/1252/22 "2015-11-11T00:53:28Z")

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I love matching with lev 1000 guys…like \*-Mr.Sammy-\*dhjl \*Krammaster \*Jhhyyg … Its’ a nice challenge and earning lots of gold.

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**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 5:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/matchmaking-is-being-attacked-by-opponents-500-levels-above-you-normal/1252/23 "2015-11-11T05:04:17Z")

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I bump into level 1000 players quite often, but then I’m near level 700 so I’d expect matchmaking to lean towards the high end…

I rarely see guildmates - it’s supposed to be rare.

Bizarrely, while I rarely fight anyone below level 250, there’s one exception - an opponent level 180ish called Kitteh88 (something like that) who I see almost every day!

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**Author:** ![orbin111](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/orbin111/32/509_2.png) [@orbin111](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/orbin111)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 6:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/matchmaking-is-being-attacked-by-opponents-500-levels-above-you-normal/1252/24 "2015-11-11T06:24:15Z")

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I realized that I quite offten play against the same players. It might be the case which was mentioned several times where you get into the loop more often when you invade. This kinda make sense especially when @MrSammy confirmed that he played like 600 games in the last days.  
I also think there might be some loop of invasios / revenges which comes in play.

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**Author:** ![Dorgath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Dorgath](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dorgath)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 4:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/matchmaking-is-being-attacked-by-opponents-500-levels-above-you-normal/1252/25 "2015-11-12T16:14:22Z")

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> [@HoundArchoin](#):
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> How, in the name of all that is holy, am I supposed to fend off opponents ~550 levels above myself? Ones that abuse cheesy builds, too.

Since the AI is fighting for you while using your team on defense, I don’t think you ever can. I don’t believe anyone has posted a defense team that wins even 50% on defense.

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**Author:** ![Razlath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razlath/32/659_2.png) [@Razlath](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razlath)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/matchmaking-is-being-attacked-by-opponents-500-levels-above-you-normal/1252/26 "2015-11-12T16:32:54Z")

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Woodland Banner  
Goblin  
Boar Rider  
Goblin Rocket  
Goblin King

Wins easily 75%+ of the time on defense for me. I would actually put its win rate at around 85 to 90%, but since I don’t track the numbers and the game doesn’t either I am estimating lower than I think it really is. I have no kingdom bonuses and all troops in the build are level 15. I actually took it down because it was winning too much and I wasn’t getting any revenge battles (which are more gold effecient than invades). There were days where I would literally get no revenge battles but wins every few hours when I checked.

I also took it down because peeps seemed to not enjoy playing against the gobbies. They were my defense deck before 1.07 and they lost around 80 to 85% of the time which is why they were there. Now they are my invade deck and I run a dwarf deck for defense which is severely underleveled and has only won a single game. 😃

-Razlath

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**Author:** ![Dorgath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Dorgath](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dorgath)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/matchmaking-is-being-attacked-by-opponents-500-levels-above-you-normal/1252/27 "2015-11-12T20:47:33Z")

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Well there you go… may have to give it a shot for a day or two to see how it does for me 😄

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**Author:** ![Razlath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razlath/32/659_2.png) [@Razlath](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razlath)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/matchmaking-is-being-attacked-by-opponents-500-levels-above-you-normal/1252/28 "2015-11-12T21:57:01Z")

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The linke below might help too. Several people published their winning defense builds. Lots of legendaries in play in most of them, but that is to be expected I think. Hang in there and keep building! Keep in mind the rules the AI follows as well. It isn’t incredibly bright, but you can play to it’s strengths. Focus on simple builds without too many choices. Remember the AI fires an ability almost as soon as it is ready, so make sure whoever you place first you want to charge and fire often if they are blocking later units. For example, the goblin charging and firing as often as possible is key to the team I posted. So the AI doesn’t really hurt itself too much when it does so.

> [@What is the most challenging opponent build?](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-the-most-challenging-opponent-build/1265):
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> After patch 1.07 Webspinner got balanced out. but on the other hand, Goblins ,Vernoxia and Drangon build became very powerful. As my personal opinion , with the level 10 kingdom additional bonus, Vernoxia with Celestasia is the most challenging build. Any thoughts on this?

-Razlath

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**Author:** ![majorbly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@majorbly](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/majorbly)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/matchmaking-is-being-attacked-by-opponents-500-levels-above-you-normal/1252/29 "2017-02-22T15:42:24Z")

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I also don’t think it has so much to do with hero level as it does your group team score and traits. I’m in the 70’s and getting 1000+ level opponents because I have high level mythics and cards and lots of traits on them.

If I set up a team with hardly any traits and not max leveled I get lesser opponents and most especially if I lower the group team score on my defense. Putting 1 fortress gate in the defense and nothing else I get slot 3 battles of around 800 to 1k.

When I put in higher defense and am playing my higher offense cards I get 1.8k or more in the 3 slot and I can hardly beat most of them as they have so much life and shields it’s not easy breaking through until they have exploded me and blasted me to smithereens.

I’ve tested this many times paying a diamond and putting low cards in my offense and defense before paying. For awhile I get easy pvp matches and then it starts to go up again as I get on a streak of wins. I rince and repeat once I reach slot 3 opponents I know I can’t beat again. Seems to work every time now for me.

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**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/matchmaking-is-being-attacked-by-opponents-500-levels-above-you-normal/1252/31 "2017-02-22T15:53:36Z")

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**Author:** ![thejaz180](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/thejaz180/32/86249_2.png) [@thejaz180](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/thejaz180)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 11:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/matchmaking-is-being-attacked-by-opponents-500-levels-above-you-normal/1252/32 "2017-02-22T23:44:48Z")

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I was going to make a thread about players with higher traits, levels, basically just higher then you challenging you, and I came across this. Well, it makes no sense, it’s just plain dumb. I’ll add it to the bag with the rest of the foolishness and just mush on.

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**Author:** ![StormChasee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@StormChasee](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/StormChasee)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 12:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/matchmaking-is-being-attacked-by-opponents-500-levels-above-you-normal/1252/33 "2017-02-23T00:32:03Z")

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Being matched against players whose levels are vastly different seems to be quite standard.

I don’t feel guilty about invading lower level players since I didn’t stack 4 real difficult troops in my defensive line-up. I’m surprised I get as many defensive victories as I get. I like to get revenge games I can win. I don’t know how the upcoming Guild Wars concept will change that. I see people with defensive line-ups and think, “You don’t seem to want any revenge games.” Those may be winnable if I get my main attack off first. I don’t want it be a luck race to see who can do that.

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**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 10:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/matchmaking-is-being-attacked-by-opponents-500-levels-above-you-normal/1252/34 "2017-02-23T10:04:48Z")

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Whats up with necroing stuff as of lately?

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