# Make Shoctopus a Green/Yellow exploder! **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [May 16, 2018, 12:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/make-shoctopus-a-green-yellow-exploder/39652 "2018-05-16T12:48:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 12:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/make-shoctopus-a-green-yellow-exploder/39652/1 "2018-05-16T12:48:05Z")
At least he would be 10 times more useful than he is now. **Mana cost 12 (Green/Yellow)** Explode 12 random gems. Stun 2 random enemy troops. Trait rework: Change his Armored trait to Stoneskin, so he can be a better front troop. ---
**Author:** ![BilboBaghead](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/bilbobaghead/32/48335_2.png) [@BilboBaghead](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/BilboBaghead)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/make-shoctopus-a-green-yellow-exploder/39652/2 "2018-05-16T13:23:50Z")
This game does not need any more exploders. It’s not about matching gems anymore, it’s became about exploding the board… ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 1:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/make-shoctopus-a-green-yellow-exploder/39652/3 "2018-05-16T13:31:18Z")
You’ll be happy to know they have more Exploders coming. In the meantime, I’m still waiting for a decent Green Exploder. Worldbreaker is too pricey and Captain Skullbeard is functional. Need another alternative besides the popular Green/Blue combination. ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 1:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/make-shoctopus-a-green-yellow-exploder/39652/4 "2018-05-16T13:43:50Z")
> [@Eika](#): > > At least he would be 10 times more useful than he is now. Also lower the spell cost to 1 mana and give him 100% chance to revive on dying, that would make him even more useful. Shoctopus feels fine to me the way he currently is, situationally useful, neither a Tau nor a Fizzbang. I don’t really see why the troop the community designed should suddenly get a complete rework. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/make-shoctopus-a-green-yellow-exploder/39652/5 "2018-05-16T13:45:59Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > In the meantime, I’m still waiting for a decent Green Exploder. Worldbreaker is too pricey and Captain Skullbeard is functional. Need another alternative besides the popular Green/Blue combination. I totally agree with this, well said. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/make-shoctopus-a-green-yellow-exploder/39652/6 "2018-05-16T14:53:25Z")
… We spent _how long_ designing Shocktopus? He isn’t going to get fundamentally changed. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/make-shoctopus-a-green-yellow-exploder/39652/7 "2018-05-16T15:20:01Z")
> [@Shimrra](#): > > He isn’t going to get fundamentally changed. Ah, thank you so much for the clarification. Now we can move on. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Casper1875](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/casper1875/32/21441_2.png) [@Casper1875](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Casper1875)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/make-shoctopus-a-green-yellow-exploder/39652/8 "2018-05-16T17:11:19Z")
Green exploder? Bogstrider 👍🏻 ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/make-shoctopus-a-green-yellow-exploder/39652/9 "2018-05-16T17:47:53Z")
Love Bogstrider, but that destroys gems. Not quite the same. Love it more than Marilith at least. ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/make-shoctopus-a-green-yellow-exploder/39652/10 "2018-05-16T17:49:24Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > Worldbreaker is too pricey An exploder not auto-refilling himself everytime, ah yeah the dream. Honestly though Worldbreaker is good. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/make-shoctopus-a-green-yellow-exploder/39652/11 "2018-05-16T17:50:48Z")
I’m with @shimrra on this. How daft does it seem if the devs rewire what the community ‘designed’. And the proposed rework just stuffs some desirable exploding into a gap that really doesn’t need filling, if you ask me. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/make-shoctopus-a-green-yellow-exploder/39652/12 "2018-05-16T18:10:56Z")
Worldbreaker is good as a damage source. I don’t care that its not auto-refilling itself each time it explodes. As a primary function of exploding, 32 mana takes way too long. I like Valraven, even though it can run away. I’m having a hard time finding the right place for it, but functionally it works. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/make-shoctopus-a-green-yellow-exploder/39652/13 "2018-05-16T18:25:19Z")
Cool… though I think Valraven was put in to annoy us as an enemy, not for us to actually try to use… ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 6:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/make-shoctopus-a-green-yellow-exploder/39652/14 "2018-05-16T18:34:58Z")
If the AI would mimic my reaction to an enemy Valraven disappearing on cast in events, i’d play him. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/make-shoctopus-a-green-yellow-exploder/39652/15 "2018-05-16T19:16:19Z")
I’d play it in such a way that it can explode once or twice, then have a summoner fill in the open slot with something you’d actually want. On defense, same principal, but Id have it replace a troop I’m already using in my 23 other slots in Guild Wars. Haven’t found a team I liked yet, but the possibility is there. Problem is mine is rare, so I’m losing a lot of stat points. ---
**Author:** ![Casper1875](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/casper1875/32/21441_2.png) [@Casper1875](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Casper1875)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/make-shoctopus-a-green-yellow-exploder/39652/16 "2018-05-16T19:46:51Z")
Guaranteed mana of your choice though, which can be better than a random exploder… ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/make-shoctopus-a-green-yellow-exploder/39652/17 "2018-05-16T22:22:57Z")
Actually, Bogstrider and Marilith are both destroy random gems troops. They have their good and bad moments. I should know, I use Bogstrider a lot. There’s no predictability to them, so many times you’ll end up taking a skull to the face from the enemy for your cast. Shocktopus has guaranteed mana of your choice on destroy, but that’s only 8 gems. ---
**Author:** ![Casper1875](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/casper1875/32/21441_2.png) [@Casper1875](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Casper1875)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/make-shoctopus-a-green-yellow-exploder/39652/18 "2018-05-17T18:14:51Z")
Fair enough, I don’t tend to use it except occasionally on defence 👍🏻