# Major problem in the Tower of Doom **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [January 6, 2019, 9:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743 "2019-01-06T09:55:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 5:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743/81 "2019-01-07T05:02:24Z")
Curently first with 100 doom lead ---
**Author:** ![Saluki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saluki/32/10639_2.png) [@Saluki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saluki)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 5:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743/82 "2019-01-07T05:10:39Z")
Uk and you are in the same guild? on Xbox? This is Thieves something or other? I thought the issue here was that this guild might not win? ---
**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 5:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743/83 "2019-01-07T05:21:04Z")
The concern of the Thieve’s Guild is always ensuring the integrity and fairness of the competition on Xbox, and we wish well also across other platforms. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 5:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743/84 "2019-01-07T05:24:29Z")
> [@UKresistance](#): > > The concern of the Thieve’s Guild is always ensuring the integrity and fairness of the competition on Xbox, and we wish well also across other platforms. I reported this potential Exploit when we got first place in ToD as well. Good on you. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Saluki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saluki/32/10639_2.png) [@Saluki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saluki)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 5:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743/85 "2019-01-07T05:24:47Z")
Ohhh, ok. It came off like you were worried you werent gonna win and you were concerned about your epeen. My bad. Grats on your victory. ---
**Author:** ![KYLENATOR001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kylenator001/32/33983_2.png) [@KYLENATOR001](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KYLENATOR001)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 7:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743/86 "2019-01-07T07:03:53Z")
Congratulations, be sure everyone can collect those 500 gems, since now we know how the mail works. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 7:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743/87 "2019-01-07T07:07:18Z")
It shouldn’t be a problem; it’s not Christmas anymore. ---
**Author:** ![KYLENATOR001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kylenator001/32/33983_2.png) [@KYLENATOR001](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KYLENATOR001)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 7:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743/88 "2019-01-07T07:08:04Z")
Fair enough. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 1:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743/89 "2019-01-07T13:13:45Z")
> [@Jonathan](#): > > ![IMG_20190107_104131](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/7/275460dd5edda3578670bbdd464019177f98e558.jpeg) This is interesting information. 274 Dooms defeated is nowhere close to the last reward tier (it’s just past reward 6, right?), but your guild is still in the top 10% of guilds participating in the event. That suggests that there are a lot of guilds out there doing not very much. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 1:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743/90 "2019-01-07T13:24:44Z")
> [@Grundulum](#): > > This is interesting information. 274 Dooms defeated is nowhere close to the last reward tier (it’s just past reward 6, right?), but your guild is still in the top 10% of guilds participating in the event. That suggests that there are a lot of guilds out there doing not very much. 700 dooms to complete all the stages. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 1:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743/91 "2019-01-07T13:25:46Z")
> [@Grundulum](#): > > but your guild is still in the top 10% of guilds participating in the event. That suggests that there are a lot of guilds out there doing not very much. There’s 40-60k guilds in the game. So the top 10% is subjective. Lol Considering maybe 5-10% of those guilds have daily active players. ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743/96 "2019-01-07T20:57:40Z")
Protip: Nothing good ever comes from publicly discussing DMs, even if you aren’t posting screenshots as “proof”. It’s dirty laundry nobody sensible outside your guilds wants to get involved with. The people outside your guilds who _do_ want to get involved are essentially the crowd screaming “FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT” and hoping they get to see someone banned. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743/97 "2019-01-07T20:59:53Z")
Cleaned up some of the mess. Please stay civil and on-topic. Lyya ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743/100 "2019-01-07T21:07:24Z")
Ty lyya this animosity is getting old ---
**Author:** ![Rojo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9dc877/32.png) [@Rojo1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rojo1)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743/101 "2019-01-07T21:35:33Z")
I agree with you on that. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743/102 "2019-01-07T21:55:06Z")
> [@awryan](#): > > There’s 40-60k guilds in the game. So the top 10% is subjective. Lol > Considering maybe 5-10% of those guilds have daily active players. That’s kind of what I was getting at. It sure sounds like the vast majority of guilds are a combination of (a) mostly empty, and/or (b) made up of casual or inactive players. This is, of course, what people have been saying for months about Guild Wars. It’s interesting to see that information from a different angle. ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743/103 "2019-01-07T22:00:09Z")
Heck, this weekend I started on Bounty late. By mid-Saturday I was barely past level 10 and apparently in the top 20% of players. Being in the group that puts a lot of effort into the game means you hang out with other people that do. But I get the feeling most GoW players are so casual they don’t have any desire to join a forum or chat about it. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 1:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743/104 "2019-01-08T01:46:02Z")
> [@Grundulum](#): > > This is interesting information. > [@Grundulum](#): > > It’s interesting to see that information from a different angle. 100%. I was (pleasantly?) surprised when this showed in the first Tower of Doom, but I guess it really only takes a small group effort to get to that ‘top 10%’ mark. Still proud of my guild, obvs 😛. I hadn’t considered how, despite fluctuating between the top 10-20% (and at the top, usually, within my guild) with daily sigils in Raid and Invasion, myself (buying up to the weapon), most of the game’s active players congregate in guilds of ~30 up the top, significantly reducing the size of that top 10%, while there are still plenty of fairly inactive guilds (of \< 30 people) populating the leaderboards. Perhaps inactive players (because there should be millions, thinking about it) aren’t counted in the individual leaderboards (I guess you’d probably have to start the event to be counted - I think I may have read this, somewhere). I wonder if it’s the same for ToD, then, with lots of single-player guilds scoring 1 or 2 Dooms. > [@awryan](#): > > There’s 40-60k guilds in the game. I could be wrong, but I think you start at ~ rank 17k when you make a new guild, right? Still lots, though. Edit: Just made a new guild, started at 26706. > [@awryan](#): > > So the top 10% is subjective. Lol 😛 We try, okay? ---
**Author:** ![Rojo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9dc877/32.png) [@Rojo1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rojo1)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 3:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743/105 "2019-01-08T03:56:09Z")
I do not know where people find extra members to join a guild then leave without a reward. Maybe they are out there but I have yet to find any. Alts lol most have barely enough time to have one account but I digress ---
**Author:** ![BelethS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beleths/32/53407_2.png) [@BelethS](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/BelethS)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743/106 "2019-01-10T18:51:32Z")
The solution would be pretty easy. Tie defeated dooms to player, and if the player leaves the guild midevent, take the dooms that he/she defeated away (including eventual luck scrolls found). Then it won’t be an issue, as each alt would best 4 dooms and the guild would lose them when it’s leaving. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743.md?page=4) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/major-problem-in-the-tower-of-doom/50743.md?page=6)