# Lots of Previews - Guild Wars, Crafting, Dungeons, and more! **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [July 26, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916 "2017-07-26T16:38:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/41 "2017-07-26T18:00:03Z")
Piker. šŸ˜‰ ![IMG_1422](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/0/2098e18f0acd5cf8a8e1b74faae28ba6ec2ab211.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![MistyTheCow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mistythecow/32/27713_2.png) [@MistyTheCow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MistyTheCow)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/42 "2017-07-26T18:02:47Z")
The nerve of this guy showing up the the lead devā€™s thread and posting proof of HACKING. SMH. SMCH. Moo. edit: I am joking ---
**Author:** ![Whiskeyjack](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whiskeyjack/32/65850_2.png) [@Whiskeyjack](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Whiskeyjack)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/43 "2017-07-26T18:05:49Z")
> [@Sirrian](#): > > When is it back? > > NEXT WEEK! YES! > [@Sirrian](#): > > weā€™re going to try a reduction from 25% to 10%, so theyā€™re not quite as punishing to face. Interesting. It will certainly help with beast and Daemon events, but hopefully still enough to incentivise weekly defence changes. > [@Sirrian](#): > > Altering the scoring systemā€¦Iā€™m not going to give you the EXACT details Boo! > [@Sirrian](#): > > but I AM going to describe all the parts for you. Yay! > [@Sirrian](#): > > Colored score bonuses WILL remain the same btw. Yay! > [@Sirrian](#): > > just giving points for a win would leave too many people tied on points at the end of the week, so we introduce one extra thingā€¦ you get a few less points for each troop you lose. That ONE extra rule tells our best players: ā€œHey! If you want to maximize your results, you should use the most efficient methods of killing enemy troops AND making sure yours are NOT killed. So Devourers & Summoners enter the meta for defense & offense respectively. There was a clear optimal strategy, and we canā€™t blame players for following it. Agreed. It created a meta defence. > [@Sirrian](#): > > Now since we canā€™t simplify the rule, we only really have one option left and that is to add some more This is great. It gives people more room to play around with different strategies. > [@Sirrian](#): > > The rules weā€™ve chosen are based around 4 facts: > > Good players lose less troops (thatā€™s the one we already have!) > Good players win their game in less moves > Good players have far higher mana efficiency (i.e. their mana collected, in proportion to their opponentā€™s mana is far higher) > Good players have far higher damage efficiency (i.e. their damage dealt, in proportion to their opponentā€™s damage is far higher) > > Now we have 4 things contributing to a score in such a way that they each push a different type of troop into the metaā€¦ Do we go for cheap kills? Slow games? Large AoE damage outputs? Or board control? Hmm interesting. My concern is that people will figure out the formula eventually, but it will be fun to try different strategies to get maximum points. > [@Sirrian](#): > > Change #1: Battles are now ALL worth 300 points I think this is a good move, and one that will limit frustration at losing. This addresses a key concern of many players. > [@Sirrian](#): > > And finallyā€¦ OTHER STUFF! > > First one is a graphic refresh to the UI. I agree that the GoW design is really dated and fully support your efforts to update it. > [@Sirrian](#): > > Next is the crafting system - the Soulforge. OMG I canā€™t wait!! > [@Sirrian](#): > > The Dungeon System This is better than I could have hoped for. I really **really** canā€™t wait for this! Overall, thanks for the communication and the heads up. Iā€™m so pleased to see that the game continues to move ina direction that tries to suit all players šŸ˜Š ---
**Author:** ![XLS78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b2d939/32.png) [@XLS78](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/XLS78)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/44 "2017-07-26T18:10:26Z")
Do we get unlimited tries at the daily boss battles or is it ā€œone and doneā€ for each? Hoping itā€™s the former, even if there is some cost to retryā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![efh313](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/efh313/32/34349_2.png) [@efh313](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/efh313)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/45 "2017-07-26T18:18:24Z")
ā€¦ ā€¦ ā€¦ ā€¦ AWESOME!!! ā¤šŸ˜± ā¤ ā€¦ ā€¦ ā€¦ ā€¦ I need to lie down now and recoverā€¦ šŸ˜Ŗ ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/46 "2017-07-26T18:18:49Z")
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**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/47 "2017-07-26T18:27:23Z")
> [@efh313](#): > > I need to lie down now and recover Take it easy bruddaā€¦ Relax, put your feet up, kick back in the cut wit a 40! @DonBoba would be mad if you explode or somethin lol ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/48 "2017-07-26T18:32:58Z")
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**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/49 "2017-07-26T18:35:10Z")
@Vangor since you can only win 3 fight per day for a jewel and will probably need thousand to craft a mythic card, it mean you could need 5-6 months just to be able to craft it. I donā€™t like it cause it make me think about every other game that use a energy system when you need to wait to be able to play again and that suck imo ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/50 "2017-07-26T18:37:35Z")
Wait a little, did you expect that crafting a mythic would be easier? You cant blame others for your own expectations mate. I expected it to be difficulty to craft mythic troops, this was no shocker for me. ---
**Author:** ![DEMONorANGEL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonorangel/32/41260_2.png) [@DEMONorANGEL](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DEMONorANGEL)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/51 "2017-07-26T18:39:12Z")
What ever do you mean Eika ? I want it all now with no work and free šŸ˜œ ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/52 "2017-07-26T18:42:30Z")
I expected you need lot of ressources of course. But what i mean is for end gamer like me, i was expecting something i could play more then 3x in a day cause everything else is done and when your 5 GW fight of the day are done, you are back to the boring pvp where you need to fight the same person and team over and over. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/53 "2017-07-26T18:43:27Z")
> [@Rickygervais](#): > > since you can only win 3 fight per day for a jewel Looks to me likethe first fight pays 25 ruby jewels 100 jewel shards (?) and 10 colorless jewels (?) and the last fight pays double thoseā€¦ And its pointless to speculate about costs without considerimg the possibility that you may need to be a certain crafting level to even craft mythics ---
**Author:** ![DEMONorANGEL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonorangel/32/41260_2.png) [@DEMONorANGEL](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DEMONorANGEL)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/54 "2017-07-26T18:44:12Z")
like maybe fighting the three battles again for ruduced rewards or someting. or jewls in regular pvp like traitstones ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/55 "2017-07-26T18:44:59Z")
So with other words you expected something like Explore mode where one could farm for jewels and then craft a choosen mythic from it after some hours? Since many endgame players already have the other resources stacked more or less, there wouldnt be much of a waiting for you. ---
**Author:** ![DEMONorANGEL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonorangel/32/41260_2.png) [@DEMONorANGEL](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DEMONorANGEL)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/56 "2017-07-26T18:46:35Z")
Was hoping Crafting would include traitstones. I have Thousands and everything is traited. ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/57 "2017-07-26T18:46:51Z")
1. Sirrian said the numbers WILL change a few times in his post. 2. We donā€™t even have the Mythic crafting numbers from the screenshots. Of course its going to take a while, I doubt you can craft a Mythic from one day of play. But there _may be_ other avenues to collect them, they havenā€™t posted very much information yetā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/58 "2017-07-26T18:46:54Z")
Well it seems there will be a leveling system involved so even end gamers must work for what they wantā€¦ Im almost an end gamer and im cool wit that ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/59 "2017-07-26T18:48:00Z")
Well after 2 years of game play i was expecting something that will keep me in the game and this is certainly not 3 fight per day who will make the game more fun. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 6:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/60 "2017-07-26T18:49:14Z")
> [@Strat](#): > > But there may be other avenues to collect them, they havenā€™t posted very much information yetā€¦ Agree with this, i hope there is something else Edit: i just realise we can now remove like if you missclicked and like someone, this is cool [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916.md?page=2) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916.md?page=4)