# Lots of Previews - Guild Wars, Crafting, Dungeons, and more! **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [July 26, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916 "2017-07-26T16:38:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![StanLevitan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stanlevitan/32/43775_2.png) [@StanLevitan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/StanLevitan)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/243 "2017-07-28T15:52:25Z")
> [@Sirrian](#): > > Good players lose less troops (that’s the one we already have!) > Good players win their game in less moves > Good players have far higher mana efficiency (i.e. their mana collected, in proportion to their opponent’s mana is far higher) > Good players have far higher damage efficiency (i.e. their damage dealt, in proportion to their opponent’s damage is far higher) So basically, if someone uses a Valkyrie + Justice + Queen Mab team, they’ll hit jackpot on all 4 points. How is that better balance exactly? With the old system, having a 3-2 score with a full colored team on that color’s day gave you more points than a 5-0 with a team without color consideration. The difference between using 4 troops of the featured color vs. none was huge. Now you’re putting more emphasis on how the battle plays out, which is mostly dependent on the board and RNG, unless you’re using a gem spamming team. This update looks to be most profitable for cheesy gamers, who like to run with their Mabs and Krakens on every GW day. ---
**Author:** ![StanLevitan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stanlevitan/32/43775_2.png) [@StanLevitan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/StanLevitan)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 4:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/244 "2017-07-28T16:05:09Z")
> [@Sirrian](#): > > There is one inherent problem with using moves, mana efficiency, and damage efficiency for scoring though; it can be affected by a little bit of luck. A VERY unlucky game could affect your score. And thus, the final part of this puzzle… homogenizing all the base scores to 300… So an unlucky paragon battle does NOT ruin your daily points disproportionately. The luck DOES even out in the long term, and we’ve noticed players do converge on actual efficiency numbers as you look across multiple gameplay sessions. Will this help me, if the AI gets 4 resurrections in a single fight (which happens more often than you might think)? If you want ‘luck’ to play a lesser part in the overall outcome, you should detach the RNG for GW from the rest of the game (if possible). Oft times you get a good board when you’re testing a team for GW in other game modes just to get completely screwed, when the fight you’ve been practicing for actually happens. > [@Sirrian](#): > > and that is giving a bonus to your weekly points for how many different troops you use in a week’s defense teams! For example, use all 24 troops as different, and you get the maximum multiplier. You could still put the same team in every day, but your multiplier would be small, since you would have only used 4 troops for the week. This system WOULD require your defenses locked in on Day 1, I like this idea 🤔 I’d give it a tiny tweak however. What if instead of giving you more points, your opponent would earn more for every troop already used? Let’s say there’s a 25% multiplier for every reused card, so beating the same def. team you used on a previous day would give your opponent double points. Example: 1st day you use troops ABCD, 2nd day EFGG, 3rd day ABFG; there’s no repetitions on the 1st day, so no extra points; on the 2nd day there’s a double G, so your opponent gets 25% more points for a reused card; 3rd day’s team is entirely made up from previously used troops, so your opponent gets 25% x 4 reused troops, meaning double points. With this solution, there’s no need to have the def. team configuration locked on day 1, as long as the game remembers which troops were already used. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 4:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/245 "2017-07-28T16:25:04Z")
> [@StanLevitan](#): > > So basically, if someone uses a Valkyrie + Justice + Queen Mab team, they’ll hit jackpot on all 4 points. How is that better balance exactly? If you use this team you will lost the color bonus points which are the most important part of the score ---
**Author:** ![StanLevitan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stanlevitan/32/43775_2.png) [@StanLevitan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/StanLevitan)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/246 "2017-07-28T16:36:15Z")
> [@Rickygervais](#): > > If you use this team you will lost the color bonus points which are the most important part of the score You’re right, but I fear this update may allow people to get more points than used to be possible without using the appropriate colors. A means of cutting their losses, using just their favorite teams. We’ll see how it plays out… ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/247 "2017-07-28T16:38:24Z")
> [@Rickygervais](#): > > If you use this team you will lost the color bonus points which are the most important part of the score Not that you need any help/hints. No one knows for certain how the new formula is calculated and weighted for each separate scoring criteria. (For the old one yes this was true). ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/248 "2017-07-28T16:41:01Z")
I must admit I was wrong, I never thought GW would be back again upcoming week, very happy. 😸 A lot to look forward to my bruttas… ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/249 "2017-07-28T16:41:23Z")
Sirrian said color bonus will stay the same so i imagine they only splitted the alive troop bonus in these 4 points. And it make no sense to give more points to someone who use a normal team then a mono color team since the difficulty is harder for mono color team ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/250 "2017-07-28T16:51:55Z")
> [@Sirrian](#): > > Colored score bonuses WILL remain the same btw. So i guess it’s the biggest part of the score like before ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 5:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/251 "2017-07-28T17:12:45Z")
Oh if only there was a ‘blue post’ system to highlight any dev responses in this stream… ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/252 "2017-07-28T17:13:17Z")
+10000 to this ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/253 "2017-07-28T17:16:01Z")
Your quoting Sirrian like you know for absolute certainty that the 4 objectives are ‘split’ from the old ‘troops alive points’. And that therefore max points are the same again. I saying that I’m not sure what the new formula, weighting, specific criteria to obtain them, or total for a GW day is yet. And I prefer verifiable things over speculation. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/254 "2017-07-28T17:19:04Z")
Bro i said i guess and i imagine, nowhere i said i was certain about this. This is the only thing imo that make sense, why put a bonus color if you can make more points with safer team? ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/255 "2017-07-28T17:23:05Z")
Ok. Fair enough: you imagine, and I don’t know. Lets leave it at that 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 5:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/256 "2017-07-28T17:39:16Z")
@Strat @Rickygervais We could try this to figure it out. @Sirrian could you please share if the new scoring variables have about the same weight as not only the existing variables but also each other as well? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/257 "2017-07-28T17:41:05Z")
So if im right @Strat owe me a beer and if i am not right i owe him a beer 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/258 "2017-07-28T18:00:10Z")
Here… One for you @Rickygervais 🍺 And one for you @Strat 🍺 And one for me 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/259 "2017-07-28T18:08:26Z")
love you Vangor, without you on these boards I would be bored to death. 💃 ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/260 "2017-07-28T18:39:54Z")
I am glad someone is entertained by my antics lol ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 6:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/261 "2017-07-28T18:42:21Z")
**Without you on these boards:** ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/b/cb7bcd871f2c43da5302d458945b4df96648166e.jpg) **With you on these boards:** [https://community.gemsofwar.com/uploads/short-url/gzVlxgo9vML16gPu9vol20zv90h.GIF](https://community.gemsofwar.com/uploads/short-url/gzVlxgo9vML16gPu9vol20zv90h.GIF) ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 6:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916/262 "2017-07-28T18:42:36Z")
> [@Eika](#): > > bored to death Lol and it would seem i saved your life! YOU OWE ME NOW! BWAHAHAHAHAA😈 [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916.md?page=12) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lots-of-previews-guild-wars-crafting-dungeons-and-more/27916.md?page=14)